bigc wrote:the tubes are very thin and are only spot welded to the frame they are pretty easy to bend the mount might suprise us and be strong enough i really dont know thats why me and bigriver mounted to the vertical frame brace tubes instead the factory honda winch mount also mounts to the vertical tubes
My tubes have solid welds on top and bottom, sides have weep holes to let moisture out. This mount uses a wrap around "tube stiffener" piece made out of 3/16" steel where the front bolts on. And, I cant imagine any issues where it connects in the back, because the bolts go through three layers of metal (mount, bumper tube, frame receiver tube) where the bumper slides into the frame. Bigc, you may be right, it might not be strong enough, but it sure looks plenty tough to me. Most truck winches are mounted to bumpers, my Warn X8000 is attached to the bumper of my Jeep. I know thats not apples to apples, but compare the steel thickness on the two machines, then compare weight and it's all about the same.