P1000 Well NOW what is out of adjustment?! >:(

[Crow_Hunter]

Well, I just got back from taking my Pioneer, that has less than 150 miles mind you, used chiefly in my yard and on woods trails on my farm and hauled dogs and some sticks on a trip around the yard. Never done anything like you guys do on Bull Run.

I stopped on the bottom corner of the hill facing downhill around 45 Degrees (with 90 being 100% side hill and 0 being facing downhill), put it in park, got out and picked up all the sticks that have blown out of the trees and put them in the bed.

Got back in and went to shift back into low and I get "-" instead of an L....

I wiggle the shifter up and down and back up to H, I can get it in H but back to L and I get the bar again and a grinding/clacking noise instead.

So I put it back in Park again, shift to Neutral, let it move a little bit and get closer to 90 degrees and apply brakes and I get it to go into Low range.

So what has gotten of adjustment this time?

For something that has unfortunately spent the majority of it's life to this point sitting in my damn garage, there sure seems to be a lot of things that can't seem to stay properly adjusted. I guess it is a good thing that I can't really ride it a bunch right now.

I am going to the Can Am dealership after Physical Therapy tomorrow and talk about a trade on a 2016/17 Defender...

It may be an over reaction but I am getting really, really annoyed at having to wrench on something that I never actually use.

 

[drfubar]

You gotta do what's best for you. I for one haven't had a minutes problem and I'm one of thoses Bull Run fools. Good luck with whatever you decide.

 

[1BadDart]

Crow hunter have you checked the cable adjustments in the box under the rear floor board? The nuts on mine are easily turned by hand and there is really isn't much tension on the cables and I think the vibration loosens the nuts. I plan on picking up nuts to use as jamb nuts to stop the vibration from loosening the adjusters. We shouldn't have to do it but sometimes we have to do what we can to eliminate a problem.

 

[Crow_Hunter]

Crow hunter have you checked the cable adjustments in the box under the rear floor board? The nuts on mine are easily turned by hand and there is really isn't much tension on the cables and I think the vibration loosens the nuts. I plan on picking up nuts to use as jamb nuts to stop the vibration from loosening the adjusters. We shouldn't have to do it but sometimes we have to do what we can to eliminate a problem.

I have actually adjusted those 3 separate occasions myself for the turf/2WD adjustment since they seem to stretch just sitting in the garage. (This was after the dealer completely screwed up the adjustment)

I have not adjusted the front though.

Maybe my adjusting the Turf/2WD has gotten the drive select shift out of adjustment.

Who knows...

I tried it again and haven't been able to recreate it.

I am still going to talk to the Can Am dealer about trading tomorrow. Unless he is going to do an even trade (or very close), I won't be doing anything for a while. If my shoulder doesn't cooperate I will have to have surgery and I will be off work for a while and won't have the money (and won't be able to ride anyway).

 

[sharp]

Well, it sounds like you need to get a can am ( you didn't mention any other brand so I guess you did your homework already) I will give you a offer on yours after you get a trade in value , so I can have 2 dependable sxs.

 

[GlockMeister]

Well, I just got back from taking my Pioneer, that has less than 150 miles mind you, used chiefly in my yard and on woods trails on my farm and hauled dogs and some sticks on a trip around the yard. Never done anything like you guys do on Bull Run.

I stopped on the bottom corner of the hill facing downhill around 45 Degrees (with 90 being 100% side hill and 0 being facing downhill), put it in park, got out and picked up all the sticks that have blown out of the trees and put them in the bed.

Got back in and went to shift back into low and I get "-" instead of an L....

I wiggle the shifter up and down and back up to H, I can get it in H but back to L and I get the bar again and a grinding/clacking noise instead.

So I put it back in Park again, shift to Neutral, let it move a little bit and get closer to 90 degrees and apply brakes and I get it to go into Low range.

So what has gotten of adjustment this time?

For something that has unfortunately spent the majority of it's life to this point sitting in my damn garage, there sure seems to be a lot of things that can't seem to stay properly adjusted. I guess it is a good thing that I can't really ride it a bunch right now.

I am going to the Can Am dealership after Physical Therapy tomorrow and talk about a trade on a 2016/17 Defender...

It may be an over reaction but I am getting really, really annoyed at having to wrench on something that I never actually use.

Maybe if you'd get it out of the yard and give it a proper break in it wouldn't give you fits

 

[Crow_Hunter]

I will definitely post it here for sale once I know what I am looking at price wise on the Defender for a reasonable cost. Assuming my wife doesn't shoot the idea down. She really likes the Pioneer and the 5 seats.

 

[Crow_Hunter]

Maybe if you'd get it out of the yard and give it a proper break in it wouldn't give you fits

Maybe if a doctor who doesn't know which end of a scalpel to hold hadn't severed a nerve, I could.

 

[GlockMeister]

Wasn't trying to be a d-bag..guess it came out that way..but I have a little over 800 miles on mine. After a recent trip to bull run my rig seems to shift smoother,and slide in and out of all 4 modes flawlessly. I had problems with my 4wd shifter to begin with also

 

[sharp]

Wasn't trying to be a d-bag..guess it came out that way..but I have a little over 800 miles on mine. After a recent trip to bull run my rig seems to shift smoother,and slide in and out of all 4 modes flawlessly. I had problems with my 4wd shifter to begin with also

I noticed that the first time I went to bull run. After I got back the rig was broken in, from the various terrain and speeds. Now it's perfect!

 

[GlockMeister]

Yep... it definitely gets a workout there.

 

[Crow_Hunter]

Wasn't trying to be a d-bag..guess it came out that way..but I have a little over 800 miles on mine. After a recent trip to bull run my rig seems to shift smoother,and slide in and out of all 4 modes flawlessly. I had problems with my 4wd shifter to begin with also

Maybe, or maybe it would be worse.

My wife thinks that there is something wrong with it from the factory since it is constantly having to be adjusted and wants to pursue a warranty claim.

Of course, that would be with the same service group that couldn't figure out how to read the manual and adjust the mode selector correct originally.

She supports me getting something that I want rather than something that I hate, but she also doesn't want to lose a whole bunch of money on the deal either.

We will see what they offer and what I might be able to sell it for.

Honestly if I could get out of it for $2,000 - $3,000 I will probably do it.

But, I need to wait for a couple of weeks anyway to see if I am going to need a nerve graft or not and the requisite 6 months+ on disability or not.

 

[Plumber32]

From the sound of it you were parked on an incline? nothing shifts well coming out of that it's binding the trans. even a pickup truck you have to jam the shifter. even the belt drives will do the same thing . just needed to be rocked to shift it. like a manual atv when it's stuck in the mud and stalls. gotta be rocked.

 

[Crow_Hunter]

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From the sound of it you were parked on an incline? nothing shifts well coming out of that it's binding the trans. even a pickup truck you have to jam the shifter. even the belt drives will do the same thing . just needed to be rocked to shift it. like a manual atv when it's stuck in the mud and stalls. gotta be rocked.

Yes. I was on a pretty steep incline, pointing downhill at an angle.

I just wonder why it would go into High range but wouldn't go into Low.

I have had it throw up the "-" a couple of times on flat ground but I figured it was just because I didn't get it shifted into gear good and would wiggle the shifter and go back to the gear and it would clear up.

 

[Plumber32]

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Yes. I was on a pretty steep incline, pointing downhill at an angle.

I just wonder why it would go into High range but wouldn't go into Low.

I have had it throw up the "-" a couple of times on flat ground but I figured it was just because I didn't get it shifted into gear good and would wiggle the shifter and go back to the gear and it would clear up.

I'm sure once you got it on flat ground it would go in. all my atvs would do that too. Polaris , arctic cat , can am. I was so pissed at my can am when I got stuck in a snow bank I almost ripped the shifter off. I did bend it. when I kicked the mother.... it's just the binding. But I will say my brothers brute force would shift perfect in any situation .

 

[JTW]

From the sound of it you were parked on an incline? nothing shifts well coming out of that it's binding the trans. even a pickup truck you have to jam the shifter. even the belt drives will do the same thing . just needed to be rocked to shift it. like a manual atv when it's stuck in the mud and stalls. gotta be rocked.

That's why I ordered a line lock!

 

[hondabob]

Make sure your shift cable adjuster nuts are tight and its adjusted ok. Mine was slightly off, not centered at the neutral notch. I pulled the battery and the access plate under the battery to get at the cable adjustment in the dash. If this is your problem its an easy fix. The only benefit with a Ranger or Defender is they can be driven at 1 mph without slipping the belt. The cab may have a better fit. The Defender has a long break in for the first check. Something like 200 hours or 1,800 miles and it may have a 3 year warranty. I think the air filter intake is under the bed and the belt drive intake may be in a bad location.

 

[Delton]

You want a dealer to trade you even? Good luck with that my friend. They wouldn't trade you a new bicycle even for a '15 Corvette. It's just not in their blood.

 

[pct]

Hope that you can get it straightened out but more miles will help and if you try to trade get ready to take a beating on your pioneer
they won't want to give near what it is worth. Put some miles on it first you will be surprised on the difference
Good Luck, Paul

 

[Tflynn]

Sounds like for your intended use the can am would be the way to go.