P1000 1st ride with new 2021 Pk3 not so wonderful

[Ichybod]

Just bought a 2021 P1000-3 last week. First ride this morning, after about 6 miles oil light comes on. Manual says two reasons for this: Low oil or emergency valve.
Checked the oil, it was fine. Did the procedure for the emergency valve. Started it , oil light still on. Tried to baby it back to the truck and trailer, had to rev it a little to get it moving, wouldn't get out of second gear, after a couple minutes it died. It started back up and died after a few seconds. After a 5-mile walk to get the truck & trailer, it started long enough to get it on trailer. Going back to the dealer this week.
Wondering what would cause this. Anyone have this experience?

 

[Ichybod]

Just bought a 2021 P1000-3 last week. First ride this morning, after about 6 miles oil light comes on. Manual says two reasons for this: Low oil or emergency valve.
Checked the oil, it was fine. Did the procedure for the emergency valve. Started it , oil light still on. Tried to baby it back to the truck and trailer, had to rev it a little to get it moving, wouldn't get out of second gear, after a couple minutes it died. It started back up and died after a few seconds. After a 5-mile walk to get the truck & trailer, it started long enough to get it on trailer. Going back to the dealer this week.
Wondering what would cause this. Anyone have this experience?

Got it back from the dealer. Loose battery cables were the problem. Doing the procedure for the emergency valve just put it in limp mode. Lesson learned.

 

[TripleB]

Got it back from the dealer. Loose battery cables were the problem. Doing the procedure for the emergency valve just put it in limp mode. Lesson learned.

Good deal

 

[tdhanses]

One positive of doing a ton of upgrades before really riding a unit is you get a good chance to look it over and these things need a good look over QC is lacking.

 

[HondaTech]

When screwing in the emergency valve the machine will stay locked in 2nd gear and take alot of rpm to move.

Sounds like your dealer needs their QC/setup department fired.

Another s*** dealer giving the best products a bad name.

 

[Ichybod]

When screwing in the emergency valve the machine will stay locked in 2nd gear and take alot of rpm to move.

Sounds like your dealer needs their QC/setup department fired.

Another s*** dealer giving the best products a bad name.

Yeah, they laid it off on Honda manufacturing's QC department. They also said the shift cables were loose.

Well, at least I got a little education on what to look for.

 

[HondaTech]

Yeah, they laid it off on Honda manufacturing's QC department. They also said the shift cables were loose.

Well, at least I got a little education on what to look for.

The dealer is the last line before the customer gets the unit.

Their are 4 people at the dealership whose job it is to make sure these problems don't get to you.
The Setup Guy
The Service Manager
The Sales Manager
And one more guy who double checks the setup guy.

This is inexcusable in my opinion. Especially 5 model years into 1000 production. They don't care and it shows.

 

[Ichybod]

The dealer is the last line before the customer gets the unit.

Their are 4 people at the dealership whose job it is to make sure these problems don't get to you.
The Setup Guy
The Service Manager
The Sales Manager
And one more guy who double checks the setup guy.

This is inexcusable in my opinion. Especially 5 model years into 1000 production. They don't care and it shows.

Agree!

 

[HondaRed16]

Glad it was simple, enjoy it 😊

Ok I have to ask...I’ve not heard of the “emergency valve”, what is that please?

 

[HondaTech]

Glad it was simple, enjoy it 😊

Ok I have to ask...I’ve not heard of the “emergency valve”, what is that please?

On the rear of the engine is a large brass flat head screw. If you loosen the hold down bolt and plate you turn the brass screw all the way in (don't force it or tighten it down alot).

This locks the Pioneer in 2nd gear to get you back to wherever in case the transmission fails. Since you can't burn the 2nd clutch up it bypasses the 1st clutch.

 

[HondaRed16]

I’m sure I read the operating manual at least twice cover to cover on my 2016, I don’t recall that. I’ll have dig it out.

Thanks man,

 

[Ichybod]

Now I discovered that I have the California model. Not really a dealbreaker for me, but it would be nice if the dealer disclosed that to me when I bought it.

 

[Ericthered]

Check your grounds with a wrench. Mine felt tight, but got 2 rotations on one ground and 1 turn on the others. No problems since for 2,500 miles.

 

[Ichybod]

Check your grounds with a wrench. Mine felt tight, but got 2 rotations on one ground and 1 turn on the others. No problems since for 2,500 miles.

Other than the battery grounds, where are the others located?

 

[dilligaff82]

Now I discovered that I have the California model. Not really a dealbreaker for me, but it would be nice if the dealer disclosed that to me when I bought it.

As far as I recall the only difference on the CA model is the gas tank vent. If I recall correctly the CA model is a closed loop system so you don’t have to extend that vent line like the rest of us do.

 

[Ichybod]

As far as I recall the only difference on the CA model is the gas tank vent. If I recall correctly the CA model is a closed loop system so you don’t have to extend that vent line like the rest of us do.

And the 600 lb load limit vs 1000 lb.

 

[HondaTech]

And the 600 lb load limit vs 1000 lb.

Thats just so the communist can't tax the Pioneer as a truck. The shocks are the only difference. f***ing communist bastards.

 

[CumminsPusher]

On the rear of the engine is a large brass flat head screw. If you loosen the hold down bolt and plate you turn the brass screw all the way in (don't force it or tighten it down alot).

This locks the Pioneer in 2nd gear to get you back to wherever in case the transmission fails. Since you can't burn the 2nd clutch up it bypasses the 1st clutch.

I wouldn’t say “can’t” burn the even clutches, my last machine did. But I’ll agree it’s very uncommon.

 

[dilligaff82]

Thats just so the communist can't tax the Pioneer as a truck. The shocks are the only difference. f***ing communist bastards.

Interesting. That’s the first I’ve heard of this. So CA models actually come with lighter springs? Or the load rating is just changed on the paperwork?

 

[Ichybod]

Just bought a 2021 P1000-3 last week. First ride this morning, after about 6 miles oil light comes on. Manual says two reasons for this: Low oil or emergency valve.
Checked the oil, it was fine. Did the procedure for the emergency valve. Started it , oil light still on. Tried to baby it back to the truck and trailer, had to rev it a little to get it moving, wouldn't get out of second gear, after a couple minutes it died. It started back up and died after a few seconds. After a 5-mile walk to get the truck & trailer, it started long enough to get it on trailer. Going back to the dealer this week.
Wondering what would cause this. Anyone have this experience?

So, took it for its first ride after being in the shop, drove it about 2 miles the oil light came on again. I checked the battery cables and checked the ground under the passenger driver seat. Started it up again and drove it 100 feet and the oil light came back on. Back at the dealers again. This is getting frustrating. Was not overheated and it had the proper amount of oil.