P1000 Auto leveling rear suspension

[ghost]

Edit: I changed the title of this thread since the topic moved to something more important.

This thing doesn't cost money - it makes money !
Three more loads and i'll have 'er paid off
The steering get very sloppy with some weight in the back.

 

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[Hondasxs]

Three more loads and i'll have 'er paid off

What!
Just loaded my truck with wood.. Where do I need to take it?
lol...

Anyways, Glad you found something profitable to use it with.

 

[Stauvo]

Hey Ghost, Did your rear self adjusting shocks perform as designed?

 

[ghost]

Hey Ghost, Did your rear self adjusting shocks perform as designed?

I didn't even think about that at the time so I was not looking for it.
But I did notice a dramatic drop on the rear suspension so I would have to say no.
I'm not sure if they are supposed to adjust independently but this picture suggests they do not (if mine are working at all).

Edit: I changed the title of this thread since the topic moved to something more important.

 

[joeymt33]

The auto level is supposed to take some riding time to cycle the suspension for it to "pump" it's self up.

 

[joeymt33]

But still, you had a LOAD!

 

[ghost]

The auto level is supposed to take some riding time to cycle the suspension for it to "pump" it's self up.

That makes me feel a bit better. My truck has auto levelling and it adjusts as soon as a load is applied.
I'll have a closer look today. Suddenly collecting fire wood is a lot more fun - now that I have the P1000.

 

[ghost]

I got another load of wood today so i measured the suspension.
Before I started I measured 7.5" between top of the tire and the wheel well.
Got a full load of wood and measured 4 + 1/2".
After driving about 1/2 mile with a full load 5 + 7/8".
After unloading - 7"
After a short drive - back to 7.5"

So - I guess it works to a degree. Does not work near as well as my truck.

With a full load the machine still hauled up a fairly steep grade without hesitation.

 

[joeymt33]

Thanks for testing that. I does look like it helps a little bit vs not having auto leveling at all. I wonder if it would eventually pump it's self up more? I'll do the same test one of these days too.

 

[Plumber32]

I bet if you went faster it would, you got a heck of a load and I would guess it needs to really bounce a few times. Truck suspension has a compressor to automatically air it up. I had it on a Yukon drove me nuts in cold weather as it ran so much. Also can am has it on there limited models atv and commanders. And it's a nightmare in the winter, it gets condensation in it .

 

[Bornlzr]

I bet if you went faster it would, you got a heck of a load and I would guess it needs to really bounce a few times. Truck suspension has a compressor to automatically air it up. I had it on a Yukon drove me nuts in cold weather as it ran so much. Also can am has it on there limited models atv and commanders. And it's a nightmare in the winter, it gets condensation in it .

Isn't it Honda's intention to balance the load side to side and make the drive more stable not to return it back to a pre load height while still loaded.

 

[joeymt33]

Isn't it Honda's intention to balance the load side to side and make the drive more stable not to return it back to a pre load height while still loaded.

I don't think that is the intention of the load leveling shocks. That would be the purpose of the anti-sway bar though.

I was under the impression that the purpose is to level the vehicle from to back.

 

[Stauvo]

Was hoping it would be a bit more robust but time in seats will be the determining factor.

 

[ohanacreek]

That makes me feel a bit better. My truck has auto levelling and it adjusts as soon as a load is applied.
I'll have a closer look today. Suddenly collecting fire wood is a lot more fun - now that I have the P1000.

The AutoLevel on the 1000 is activated during the cycling of the suspension, your truck is most likely computer controlled.

 

[JACKAL]

My truck has auto levelling and it adjusts as soon as a load is applied.

Point of order doesn't your truck have electronics to sense levelling and an air compressor with air bags? The P1K has a far simpler system.

And that load of wood pictured, that's a bit more than joe avg. would likely do. Heck it would even make Linda Lovelace gag. There's my DAC reference for the day.

 

[ghost]

Yup - my truck is computer controlled with a compressor.
When I saw the 1000 had auto-levelling my thoughts went to what I already had experience with. I'm ok with a simpler system for this of vehicle. But I did buy the high end machine with a price to match so I have expectations. It is rated for 1000 pound payload and it does have a computer.

On the plus side, I ran a couple more loads today and noticed the machine feels very sloppy after loading but stabilizes quite a bit after driving a few hundred yards. I think each bump helps - as was mentioned earlier. It feels unnatural to ride it hard to make it ride better.

I think I'm due for some better tires too.

Overall I'm glad i got the auto-levelling cause it does help. It could be better.

 

[JACKAL]

Yup - my truck is computer controlled with a compressor.
When I saw the 1000 had auto-levelling my thoughts went to what I already had experience with. I'm ok with a simpler system for this of vehicle. But I did buy the high end machine with a price to match so I have expectations. It is rated for 1000 pound payload and it does have a computer.

On the plus side, I ran a couple more loads today and noticed the machine feels very sloppy after loading but stabilizes quite a bit after driving a few hundred yards. I think each bump helps - as was mentioned earlier. It feels unnatural to ride it hard to make it ride better.

I think I'm due for some better tires too.

Overall I'm glad i got the auto-levelling cause it does help. It could be better.

If you are looking for a tough stiff tire for heavy loads would won't do much better than the 8 ply radial STI Roctane XD tires. Them things are as tough as woodpecker lips.

 

[ohanacreek]

Yup - my truck is computer controlled with a compressor.
When I saw the 1000 had auto-levelling my thoughts went to what I already had experience with. I'm ok with a simpler system for this of vehicle. But I did buy the high end machine with a price to match so I have expectations. It is rated for 1000 pound payload and it does have a computer.

On the plus side, I ran a couple more loads today and noticed the machine feels very sloppy after loading but stabilizes quite a bit after driving a few hundred yards. I think each bump helps - as was mentioned earlier. It feels unnatural to ride it hard to make it ride better.

I think I'm due for some better tires too.

Overall I'm glad i got the auto-levelling cause it does help. It could be better.

I am used to an auto leveling vehicle, my current one doesn't but looking at the first pictures of the 1000 I wondered how it worked, when it was explained to me how it did my first thought was WAY LESS TO BREAK, because the vehicle that I had the auto leveling on needed several repairs to the system over its lifetime. You don't have to drive it hard, just drive it normal for a short distance and the movement of the shock will level itself.

 

[ghost]

You don't have to drive it hard, just drive it normal for a short distance and the movement of the shock will level itself.

LOL - I guess you're right. On my last ride I loaded up and drove like a maniac, trying to hit every bump to see how much suspension lift I could get. That must have been a sight if anyone saw me. But maybe you're right - I could drive normal. MAYBE. I still have a choice.

 

[ohanacreek]

LOL - I guess you're right. On my last ride I loaded up and drove like a maniac, trying to hit every bump to see how much suspension lift I could get. That must have been a sight if anyone saw me. But maybe you're right - I could drive normal. MAYBE. I still have a choice.

It's not going to lift it any, it's going to go to the preset ride height every time after a few hundred yards(as long as you're not way over capacity)