P700 Bashed skids and broken bolts

[SundayRdr]

Ok so I've never posted any repairs start to finish or added more than 3 pics to a message so here goes.
2016 new year ride in a first time sxs ride. What happens I center hang a rock that looks like mud on the trail. It broke 3 bolts on the front if the engine skid plate. The front of the skid plate folded in half backwards acting as a plow. I have since straightened it out multiple times because it CAKES with mud and I feel the engine vibrations were it is jam packed. So I changed the oil today and thought why not let's fix this. So I removed the engine skid plate with 3 broken bolts and
water running down one arm since the frame was full of water this is my frame.

Ok now to remove bolts. Tools I used :
1/2 cordless drill, 1/8 & 3/8 drill bit, centering punch, astro pneumatic nutsert kit.
Center punched the holes

Drilling the first bolt and it broke loose screwing through the frame and broke my 1/8 bit but that's ok $388 they have a lifetime warranty..
Drilled the second bolt and it doesn't budge so drill it with 3/8 bit and use my nutsert tool to install a threaded insert.



A few hits with the LFH (little F'n hammer) on a couple 6x6's and the skids are as good as it's gonna get.

3 M6 bolts plus the existing stock bolts and my skids reinstalled better than new.

 

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[SundayRdr]

Broken center bolt

 

[Deluxe700]

Nice Job....Thanks for the info and pictures of the repair.... I hope to put all new skids on my P700 someday, but I'm about tapped out on money for mods for awhile...Thanks again for the info

 

[ToddACimer]

I've been tempted by Menard's price on HDPE. I made my skid plate with UHMW because it's a bit less likely to break in cold weather but this is 1/3 the price I paid. https://www.menards.com/main/buildi...08-c-14048.htm?tid=-772121081236022054&ipos=2

 

[ohanacreek]

I've been tempted by Menard's price on HDPE. I made my skid plate with UHMW because it's a bit less likely to break in cold weather but this is 1/3 the price I paid. https://www.menards.com/main/buildi...08-c-14048.htm?tid=-772121081236022054&ipos=2

It's not as abrasion resistant, dont be tempted to the cheap side.

 

[SundayRdr]

It's not as abrasion resistant, dont be tempted to the cheap side.

See I want a full skid front to rear but am a tight ass and don't want to buy something that doesn't work. I don't wanna spend $300-350 on plastic and spend 8 hours building one when I can buy bolt one for $550 ish. I like the skids @PioneerPete has but think he bought his.

 

[ohanacreek]

See I want a full skid front to rear but am a tight ass and don't want to buy something that doesn't work. I don't wanna spend $300-350 on plastic and spend 8 hours building one when I can buy bolt one for $550 ish. I like the skids @PioneerPete has but think he bought his.

UHMW is more durable than aluminum, slides over rocks and things aluminum would catch on, doesn't stick to mud like aluminum.

It's an engineered plastic designed for that type of use. It's used in mines and steel mills to line the conveyors.

 

[ToddACimer]

It's not as abrasion resistant, dont be tempted to the cheap side.

I spent the extra and bought UHMW for mine. I've been very happy with it. The best part is that it doesn't have the seams between panels of aftermarket plates (except bumper to skid)

One thing to keep in mind is broke bolts are not going to be avoidable with more skid plates. I've bent 4 bolts and broke 3 but many of the obstacles would have been major hang ups without a flat belly.

 

[PioneerPete]

See I want a full skid front to rear but am a tight ass and don't want to buy something that doesn't work. I don't wanna spend $300-350 on plastic and spend 8 hours building one when I can buy bolt one for $550 ish. I like the skids @PioneerPete has but think he bought his.

got mine from trail armor. I think they were around $700. Should have come with stainless bolts for that price. All the bolts are rusting.

 

[ToddACimer]

got mine from trail armor. I think they were around $700. Should have come with stainless bolts for that price. All the bolts are rusting.

Stainless bolts are probably not a good idea. They are more likely than regular steel bolts and harder to drill out if they break off. A coated grade 5 bolt would be more than adequate.

 

[PioneerPete]

Stainless bolts are probably not a good idea. They are more likely than regular steel bolts and harder to drill out if they break off. A coated grade 5 bolt would be more than adequate.

maybe. I have not been happy with the bolts that came with mine.

 

[Delton]

Y'all killing me with the "aluminum not sliding across rocks" again. @SundayRdr hopefully we can find some big rocks to play on Saturday. You can see for yourself.

 

[SundayRdr]

Y'all killing me with the "aluminum not sliding across rocks" again. @SundayRdr hopefully we can find some big rocks to play on Saturday. You can see for yourself.

Man I just fixed my chit m you already wanting me to tear it up again. Lol. May take 3 yrs for me to fix it again.

 

[Tramguage1]

I have a set of 700-4 factory skids. If anyone needs them for a pattern or replacements hit me up. If you pay shipping there yours.

 

[Delton]

Man I just fixed my chit m you already wanting me to tear it up again. Lol. May take 3 yrs for me to fix it again.

Mine looks rough but i can't blame it considering what it's been through. It's job is to take the abuse. I like that it's only 3/16" thick and I've yet to hear of one splitting unlike the uhmw.

 

[Delton]

I have a set of 700-4 factory skids. If anyone needs them for a pattern or replacements hit me up. If you pay shipping there yours.

I hope the 700 has better factory skids than the 1000. It comes with a skimpy bikini lol

 

[popeye]

Has any one thought of using a counter sunk torques or Allen head screw on a homemade skid, if the heads weren't exposed, they wouldn't be getting cought and broken off. I know it wouldn't work for the Honda skids and probably the aftermarket ones either.

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[Neohio]

Has any one thought of using a counter sunk torques or Allen head screw on a homemade skid, if the heads weren't exposed, they wouldn't be getting cought and broken off. I know it wouldn't work for the Honda skids and probably the aftermarket ones either.

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The problem I see with that, is you will need to go to a large thread so you get a decent enough sized head to hold it all together.

 

[popeye]

The problem I see with that, is you will need to go to a large thread so you get a decent enough sized head to hold it all together.

Or just use more screws, and nutzert the frame, I used 3/8" dia screws on the skid of my old tube chassis rock crawler.

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[Delton]

These came with my skids and work great. Haven't seen any bolt head damage at all. Might be able to find them separately somewhere.