P500 Diesel air heater for P500

[solrus]

I was watching Ukrainian youtube channel about Nissan Leaf , and today they showed something that is portable and easy to install and has very good heat output. They used very small diesel air heater and install it into electric Nissian Leaf (that has lowest battery capacity among other EVs) to preserve battery in winter and heat car same time.

Since we all know that P500 does not have good heat output if connecting heaters into radiator circuit, unless you can fabricate bypass valve.

This is could be another option and could be turned into portable attach/deattach heater that you could use in your garage/van/tent/shop

Lets also compare pricing : to install conventional heater (proper way): heater ~ 370$, bypass valve ~ 100-150$ + installation fee, I think the final value could be up to 600-700$. BUT the result is mediocre heat

This heater Airtronic D2 is very compact - 12"x 4.5" x 4.8", has decent max heat output 2200 watt = 7500 btu/h which is guaranteed compare what really we get installing coolant type of heater . You might say that propane golf cart heater might work , I would not disagree except that its not very convenient, does not allow to direct the air on you windshield and so on. I use propane heater but mostly when we parked.

The price for this German made unit ~ 700$. , similar unit Planar 2D made in Russia - 500$ and few more other brands like VVKB heater


Here is few links
Airtronic D2 - AIRTRONIC D2 - Eberspächer

Planar 2D-12 - this is Russian made - https://www.amazon.com/Diesel-Planar-Webasto-Airtronic-Eberspacher/dp/B01N11D7QJ?tag=sxsweb24-20

You can install it into front storage compartment or made a portable unit that you can plug/unplug into P500 or other units similar to this idea: -

or this -

Portable unit could be fitted into under hood storage area or just be carried on the rack.

 

[elkguide]

Pretty neat idea.

 

[allgm1]

It does look like a good idea, I have a buddy of mine that does parts for peterbuilt, who sells, installs and services those on the side, I never thought of using one in a sxs, probably will roast you out of the cab lol

 

[solrus]

It does look like a good idea, I have a buddy of mine that does parts for peterbuilt, who sells, installs and services those on the side, I never thought of using one in a sxs, probably will roast you out of the cab lol

Agree, I wish I knew this from the start and did not invest time into routing my heater and later ending buying another golf car heater, since output was so low.

 

[JCart]

The D2 even has a petrol version (gas) excellent find. I like the pelican case idea, strap on rear rack plumb heat into cab and off you go. Quick connect for power. Then when you get to destination you can place heater where you like. Will be putting that on the list of to does... albeit down a little ways.

Thanks Solrus

 

[solrus]

Go with German version , i've read good reviews compare to Planar. Thank you Ukrainian Nissan Leaf enthusiasts here is the video where they install it into Leaf.

I think this is the way to go with Leaf if you own it in poor developed infrastructure country or area with no charging stations and try to preserve every kw to get you home and not for heating

Start at 9:22 min

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[solrus]

Found two cheap Chinese generic heaters , might worse of try 3000 and 5000 kw models

3000W 12V DT3000 Fuel Diesel Air Heater Set 3 KW For PLANAR Car Truck Bus Boat | eBay


Eberspacher Airtronic D2 | eBay

 

[CumminsPusher]

Solrus that was a very good find! Very curious how one would hold up in off road situations. The instant heat would be awesome

 

[solrus]

Solrus that was a very good find! Very curious how one would hold up in off road situations. The instant heat would be awesome

You tube review, but I assume since they are being installed on boats, different cars they should perform fine under vibration. I think the idea with pelican case was brilliant.

I will get to it after we are back from vacation and might look into install.

 

[JCart]

I could see maybe a pelican case mount on the roof to save space on the rear rack, my underhood is already full for the most part. Then run heated air via tubing in side cab and return line back from inside cab to reheat saving on temp loss (once full doors are completed of course). Hope that makes sense.

Thanks for the links Solrus.

 

[solrus]

I could see maybe a pelican case mount on the roof to save space on the rear rack, my underhood is already full for the most part. Then run heated air via tubing in side cab and return line back from inside cab to reheat saving on temp loss (once full doors are completed of course). Hope that makes sense.

Thanks for the links Solrus.

Yep, and direct air from roof to windshield , may be even make one wide hose attachment for simplicity . YouTube more videos with similar type of heater install. Im going to back to Ukraine this spring and might buy it there , looks like full kit around 500$ compare to 800$ here. But those generic Chinese on eBay might be good copy and half price.

Now I think I would go this route if I knew about the existence of such heaters two years ago. I like instant heat, portable, can be used for other applications, and way less pain to install. Even with soft doors should work good.

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[pFive]

That one on Ebay looks awesome.. I am curious if the fuel will stay warm enough to not gel up in that pump.

 

[solrus]

That one on Ebay looks awesome.. I am curious if the fuel will stay warm enough to not gel up in that pump.

U might just put tank behind your back/seats inside can. I need to check at what temp disiel gels

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[solrus]

I found this"A good example of a fuel treatment is CleanBoost Sno-Cat Diesel Fuel Conditioner which is designed to reduce pour points and diesel fuel gelling in #1, #2, and even B5 and B20 Biodiesels" or adding kerosene should work or try to find gasoline version.

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[Chooglin]

This is what I use in my tractor and have never had a problem !

Power Service

You can buy it at TSC

 

[JCart]

I use grey bottle Power Service with Cetane improver and also Stanadyne and am currently trying a different product, bought in bulk 25 litre plastic box. Will check on the name and post up as I forgot it. All the above I use in my 7.3 powerstroke trucks and VW Touareg 3.0 TDi and actually increases mileage. In Western Canada typically the Diesel vendors provide winter additive packages so you don’t get gelling of fuel.

 

[solrus]

Here is a good story and what should be improved, I think I will change combustion air intake from plastic to a metal one , will look in homedepot today or may be come up with some sort of isolation

VOE: A Faulty Heater Nearly Leads to Tragedy

 

[solrus]

What a bummer!!! Put together this beauty heater , the pump was broken , hrrrrrrr. got a lemon pump

emailed back ebay seller, waiting ..........

 

[CumminsPusher]

What a bummer!!! Put together this beauty heater , the pump was broken , hrrrrrrr. got a lemon pump

emailed back ebay seller, waiting ..........

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Solrus I love the work with the case! Well done that’s probably the best idea, I’ll probably follow along with that if you say exhaust heat inside is minimal. I got mine hooked up on the floor and was pretty impressed with the heat output. Surprisingly quite I thought but pump runs a little loud. I’m excited to hear how she works for you

 

[solrus]

Once I get a new pump , I will let you know and video all heat any point you need , just disappointed I got a bad pump