High Elevation Issues with Talons??

[N8theGR8]

Do Talons have high-elevation issues with maintaining low end and torque? I have a Pioneer 700-4 but want to get into crawling/climbing sometime in the future and would need that suspension travel? Thanks!

 

[Admin]

 

[DG Rider]

Do Talons have high-elevation issues with maintaining low end and torque? I have a Pioneer 700-4 but want to get into crawling/climbing sometime in the future and would need that suspension travel? Thanks!

I'ma say no.
ALL naturally aspirated engines lose power with altitude gain. Your talon will lose some power, just like anything else except the turbo machines which can simply add more boost to make up for it.

The problem with 700 is that it has no low range and/or low gearing options to help make up for that loss. The talon does. And the extra 90 (or whatever) hp doesn't hurt either.

 

[1HasBeen]

About 3% per 1,000 feet elevation.

 

[CID]

I've ridden my Talon up to 13,262 feet on 30" tires with no problem (stock is 28"). Guys running 32's do have 'some' trouble. If you understand the DCT bog, you can work around it, simply bumping the obstacle will get you over most obstacles.

DCT bog - Talons (and P1Ks) idle at 1500 and the clutches engage at 1800 (or thereabouts). There simply isn't any torgue 'down there', it's a law of physics. Backing up 6" or so and getting a GENTLE bump at the step-up will get you right over it, most times.

 

[Montecresto]

Do Talons have high-elevation issues with maintaining low end and torque? I have a Pioneer 700-4 but want to get into crawling/climbing sometime in the future and would need that suspension travel? Thanks!

Yes, I ride mine mostly in the southern Rockies 7,500-11,000’ and have had plenty of trouble, I’m getting a 25% IGR installed and front lockers next month….

 

[DG Rider]

@N8theGR8 have you driven a KRX?

 

[N8theGR8]

@N8theGR8 have you driven a KRX?

No i have not.

 

[DG Rider]

No i have not.

Neither have I, but by pretty much every account you read or hear, it's the machine if "crawling" is your thing.

 

[bjniceguy]

they have addressed the torque from stop, but the DCT in automatic mode even in low range (system ignores sport in low range), has a tendency to up shift way too soon. If you have in auto and use paddle to drop down a gear, it almost instantly goes back up to where it was. This makes the car feel boggy and under powered, but it is not really. I have 30" tires and this is easily addressed by using manual mode.

 

[CID]

they have addressed the torque from stop, but the DCT in automatic mode even in low range (system ignores sport in low range), has a tendency to up shift way too soon. If you have in auto and use paddle to drop down a gear, it almost instantly goes back up to where it was. This makes the car feel boggy and under powered, but it is not really. I have 30" tires and this is easily addressed by using manual mode.

This is true, in manual mode the DCT programming will let you bounce off the rev limiter if you want. @Lil_Steve taught me to use manual on steep/rocky climbs to prevent untimely upshifts, also true in deep sand. It will still downshift, whether you want it to or not. As a short shifter I find this downshifting irritating at times, sometimes I just want to power through a turn in the gear I'm in but the Talon downshifts anyway.

 

[N8theGR8]

Neither have I, but by pretty much every account you read or hear, it's the machine if "crawling" is your thing.

I started watching some videos and seems to be true. I'm hoping that by the time im ready to trade mine in, Honda will have improved to that level. It seems they've already started with the turbo's. 🤞

 

[DG Rider]

I started watching some videos and seems to be true. I'm hoping that by the time im ready to trade mine in, Honda will have improved to that level. It seems they've already started with the turbo's. 🤞

I wouldn't hold my breath.