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Thanks for the post, I'm doing some research still. Seems 32" carnivores (spelling) are the recommended tires.

I'll be riding mud/dirt, and coal piles mainly. Some rocky conditions but mostly old trails. No sand or anything like that.

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The carnivores are on the lighter side of the spectrum for 32’s. Weight should be a consideration in your wheel and tire combo. I have the R with 32 carnies and it did suck some power on the top gears. Not so noticeable in the first 3 gears or on the trails but you feel it in the sand. For 99% of my riding it was a worthwhile trade off for the improved ground clearance and ride.
 
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I honestly didn't notice a power difference on my x2 when I went to 32" rock-a-billys. Really didn't notice a difference in gearing either at trail speeds. Definitely noticed a diffence in break over clearance, and the capability of the increased size. We do a lot of crawling and I was concerned about power loss and gear ratio (already think it is a little high and am/was considering an IGR) but was pleasanlty suprised with how I really can't tell a difference. I also can't stand rubbing, and my setup resulted in zero rubbing under any conditions.
 
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One other benefit to add. Since the stock tire size side walls are short, they ride pretty rough. Going up to a 30" will increase the side wall and ride quality will greatly improve. I live just east of you a bit and run 30" IPT Blackwaters on beadlocks for the wet. But also run 30" Tusk Terrbites on the stock rims for around home on pavement and during the dry days. Both ride much better than stock, both have their pluses and minuses. Carnivores are a great all around tire, but I didn't want to go up to a 32".
 
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32" M1 EVILS (best tire on the planet..bought on recommendation from buddy living down Hatfield that runs Outlaw trails all the time) mounted on System 3 BLs...Shock Therapy Springs all around. I can squeeze a 5 gallon bucket under it...yes, those are 4 Rockford Fosgate 4 way 6x9s overhead...no, i don't buy....i build...


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If you don't want the loss of torque from using larger wheels and like to spend lots of money, do a web search for 'honda talon portal gear lift'. You can actually specify a gear reduction to get more torque at the expense of top end of course and get more clearance to boot. BTW if you do this be sure to test your scissor jack if that's what you carry with you.
 
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If you don't want the loss of torque from using larger wheels and like to spend lots of money, do a web search for 'honda talon portal gear lift'. You can actually specify a gear reduction to get more torque at the expense of top end of course and get more clearance to boot. BTW if you do this be sure to test your scissor jack if that's what you carry with you.
And add 8” of width......😳
IGR is less expensive but more work to install...🤔
 
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And add 8” of width......😳
IGR is less expensive but more work to install...🤔
An IGR won't give any height will it? Also looks like a pretty involved install. Anyway I saw a guy who had the portals on his sxs and then put on tractor tires! That thing just ate up the trail.
 
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An IGR won't give any height will it? Also looks like a pretty involved install. Anyway I saw a guy who had the portals on his sxs and then put on tractor tires! That thing just ate up the trail.
No, IGR doesn’t give any height. It’s installed inside. It is an involved install. I’ll be taking mine to an authorized installer.
 
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Bigger tires clear more obstacles, better approach angle, better departure angle and better break over angle. While not race friendly, they can make the difference between winching or driving through a lot of trail obstacles. The Talon has enough torque friendly power to accommodate 32’s with ease. Down side is a higher center of gravity (easier to tip over) and you’re not going to win any drag races. May also hold you back in the dunes.
 
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Have only been to 6000’, but didn’t notice any difference there, how high are you talking?
I ride between 7500’ and 10,000’
Stock 28’s were giving a challenge, I went with 30’s because so much clearance issues and of course compounded the problem. I’ll be having an IGR installed to compensate....
 
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