P1000 Low gear gone

[Hondoman]

Mine wont stay in low, I'm guessing the gear dogs are worn. Starts out fine then bangs and goes into neutral. New shift cable and its properly adjusted. Sub trans fluid level fine.

I've called the three closest dealers to me and none have heard of this problem. One says they are a week out, but doesn't have room to take mine in now, the second one says bring it in and it will be 2-3 weeks (gut says it it be there much longer) and third says they are booked until july 15. I would attempt it myself, but I really dont have much room to work on it.

Has anyone replaced the gear(s) themselves and how hard was it. Has anyone had the dealer do it, and how much did it cost?

Thanks.

 

[Cuoutdoors]

Sounds like its broken....I think the same thing happened to @Ragnar406

 

[JTW]

You are NOT alone in this issue!

 

[GPR1500SC]

Yes I have.
get a manual if you are mechanically inclined it is not hard at all.

 

[Hondoman]

Yes I have.
get a manual if you are mechanically inclined it is not hard at all.

Thanks. Yeah I can do it, just limited on space really.

Did you drain the oil then pull the sub tranny out from underneath? I'm assuming you have to pull it out to get to everything?

 

[GPR1500SC]

Thanks. Yeah I can do it, just limited on space really.

Did you drain the oil then pull the sub tranny out from underneath? I'm assuming you have to pull it out to get to everything?

Yes it comes out the bottom I am not good at English I never got the hang of it, that's why I suggested a manual
Ok brief overview pull front bumper move front differential forward about a 1.5 inches the drive shaft is a floating spline up front, and got a clip holding in place by the sub trans, snap the shaft off, drain oil, disconnect sensors, and shift cable, unbolt, and remove.
2 of them are nut and work as guide studs.
Remove complete sub transmission it is not as hard as this list sounds, do NOT try splitting the case in the machine.

 

[Hondoman]

Yes it comes out the bottom I am not good at English I never got the hang of it, that's why I suggested a manual
Ok brief overview pull front bumper move front differential forward about a 1.5 inches the drive shaft is a floating spline up front, and got a clip holding in place by the sub trans, snap the shaft off, drain oil, disconnect sensors, and shift cable, unbolt, and remove.
2 of them are nut and work as guide studs.
Remove complete sub transmission it is not as hard as this list sounds, do NOT try splitting the case in the machine.

Awesome, thank you. Can you recommend a good manual?

 

[AZRocks]

2016-2021 Honda Pioneer 1000 SXS1000 M3 M5 Service Manual OEM 61HL405 | eBay

The part number is 61HL405.

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[Hondoman]

2016-2021 Honda Pioneer 1000 SXS1000 M3 M5 Service Manual OEM 61HL405 | eBay

The part number is 61HL405.

www.ebay.com

Thanks. I forgot this is available to lifetime members here. Doh!

 

[Joel26]

My LOW gear is knocking and will not accelerate when I put my shift lever in “L”. I only had the bike for like 5 months maybe 6 I have 100 miles on it. Will Honda warranty this?

 

[Hondoman]

My LOW gear is knocking and will not accelerate when I put my shift lever in “L”. I only had the bike for like 5 months maybe 6 I have 100 miles on it. Will Honda warranty this?

Yours should be covered by the warranty. Mine is 3 years old.

 

[Joel26]

Ok.i have mud tires and a snorkel kit on it but I didn’t install it. The dealership sold it to me like that. Do you think the warranty will still cover it

 

[Hondoman]

Ok.i have mud tires and a snorkel kit on it but I didn’t install it. The dealership sold it to me like that. Do you think the warranty will still cover it

I dont see why not. Seems alot of machines left the showroom with misaligned shift cables which have caused these problems.

 

[Joel26]

I hope so man!! But I’ll see. My fingers crossed that Honda honor there warranty.

 

[GPR1500SC]

P1000 - lower Reverse on a Pioneer

I finally got around to this mod after reverse broke I found the retainer on the bottom with most of its balls ☹ Here is a complete parts list you will need if you do reverse only, I chose to replace low also while I was in there for a extra $109.68 23691-HL6-A00 reverse 25 tooth gear $82.84...

hondasxs.com

Here is a link to the post I started when I had pulled mine it will give you a idea what for gaskets and seal you will need if you replace them all.

 

[Hondoman]

P1000 - lower Reverse on a Pioneer

I finally got around to this mod after reverse broke I found the retainer on the bottom with most of its balls ☹ Here is a complete parts list you will need if you do reverse only, I chose to replace low also while I was in there for a extra $109.68 23691-HL6-A00 reverse 25 tooth gear $82.84...

hondasxs.com

Here is a link to the post I started when I had pulled mine it will give you a idea what for gaskets and seal you will need if you replace them all.

Awesome, thank you! I wondered if there was a lower low gear I could use, guess not but the lower reverse would be nice.

I may do the igr at some point anyway.

 

[Hondoman]

@GPR1500SC is KILLING it!

How do you guys give a "love" icon, I can only do "like".

 

[Hondoman]

Jumped in feet first. Ordered the parts to replace low and upgrading to the talon lower reverse.

 

[Ragnar406]

Jumped in feet first. Ordered the parts to replace low and upgrading to the talon lower reverse.

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Yep, that is how mine were worn when my low gear went out. I have a good dealer so they replaced in just over a week. really it took a week to get the parts in and they pulled repaired and replaced the day after parts came in. I had the extended warranty so it was covered by that ...

 

[Hondoman]

Yep, that is how mine were worn when my low gear went out. I have a good dealer so they replaced in just over a week. really it took a week to get the parts in and they pulled repaired and replaced the day after parts came in. I had the extended warranty so it was covered by that ...

I wish I had a good dealer around here. Most have gone from Honda or Honda/Yamaha only to multi line dealers carrying Artic Cat, Polaris etc...

Service shops are now full of non-Hondas...