More Oil Than I Started With in Crankcase After Roll Over?

[Nevada Notch]

First off, I went turtle (very slow front over roll) in the dunes and rolled it over on its lid. Rolled it back over on its wheels and then after letting it sit for about 10 minutes, I fired it up for a few seconds just to back it up to position it for towing and then immediately shut it down. I didn't want to run it very long because I saw some oil had leaked out.

So, after towing it back to the trailer, winching it onto the trailer and pushing it back into the garage I checked the oil level because some of it leaked out.

Anyway, the oil level is way over full when I'm positive it was right on the money to start with????

Any one have an idea as to why?

Another puzzle where can the oil leak out besides the valve cover vent? No oil in the air box.

Thanks in advance,

Rand

 

[Admin]

 

[Hello_Darkness]

Oil can't come out of the valve cover vent due to the large steel ball inside that plugs the hole in a rollover.

I'd be interested to see where it cam from as well, sure it's not the sub trans vent leaking?

 

[Nevada Notch]

Hmmmmmm.... Something to look at. The left side of the Talon is where the oil has saturated

Still don't know why I have more oil than I started with.....

Rand

 

[hondabob]

A cold engine will read about 1/4 inch overfilled after sitting overnight. Compare it with a friends Tallon.

 

[TripleB]

A cold engine will read about 1/4 inch overfilled after sitting overnight. Compare it with a friends Tallon.

Yep

 

[CID]

First off, I went turtle (very slow front over roll) in the dunes and rolled it over on its lid. Rolled it back over on its wheels and then after letting it sit for about 10 minutes, I fired it up for a few seconds just to back it up to position it for towing and then immediately shut it down. I didn't want to run it very long because I saw some oil had leaked out.

So, after towing it back to the trailer, winching it onto the trailer and pushing it back into the garage I checked the oil level because some of it leaked out.

Anyway, the oil level is way over full when I'm positive it was right on the money to start with????

Any one have an idea as to why?

Another puzzle where can the oil leak out besides the valve cover vent? No oil in the air box.

Thanks in advance,

Rand

Well, crap, I just spent 'awhile' looking for my previous post on this but couldn't find it.

New version - I HATE Honda's recommended oil checking procedure for a Talon. Warm up, let sit for 2 or 3 minutes (WTF?), check oil level. Not ok in my mind.

So, when I change my oil and filters (6qts. 3.2 oz. (I round that up to 4 oz.)), I do the oil change, run long enough to saturate the filters and let the thing sit overnight - and then, I check the oil. You can decide whether you do it with the dipstick screwed all the way in (my photo) or with the dipstick on top of the threads like Honda recommends. It doesn't matter, you're looking for your baseline.

Once I know where my Talon's full is, that's what I check for, sitting on the trailer, level, in the garage where it lives, without having to warm the damn thing up to check my oil ... so I can check it anytime I want during the week.

This is my full. Don't use this, set your own baseline -

 

[Nevada Notch]

That's about where my level is, when not screwed in. I'll have to warm it up and check it tomorrow following Honda's recommended procedure. Just paranoid to start the damn thing!

I'm guessing my oil loss is the sub trans. I'll check it also tomorrow.

Rand

 

[DRZRon1]

That's about where my level is, when not screwed in. I'll have to warm it up and check it tomorrow following Honda's recommended procedure. Just paranoid to start the damn thing!

I'm guessing my oil loss is the sub trans. I'll check it also tomorrow.

Rand

u r fine - you already started it

they don't make oil - wish they did - lol

hope everyone is ok and u r back on the trails soon

 

[CID]

u r fine - you already started it

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Yup, once you started it after the rollover, nothing's wrong -

 

[Nevada Notch]

Do any of you guys know where the sub trans vent line ends, what the vent end connects to or is it just an open hose?

Rand

 

[CID]

Do any of you guys know where the sub trans vent line ends, what the vent end connects to or is it just an open hose?

Rand

It doesn't go far, probably plugged into a nearby frame tube -

 

[Hello_Darkness]

Do any of you guys know where the sub trans vent line ends, what the vent end connects to or is it just an open hose?

Rand

It's attached to the rear firewall then gets inserted into the bar that runs across the back of the seats I believe, it may just loop over ok itself.

 

[Nevada Notch]

Thank you gentlemen....

I'm now pretty sure the oil came from the sub trans.

Rand

 

[Nevada Notch]

Well got done checking all of the fluid levels and engine oil level is good, front and rear differentials are good however, I did loose a 1/2 quart out of the sub trans.

Engine oil......
I am going to let it sit overnight and then file a very small mark on the dipstick so I can tell the fill level after it's been sitting overnight without having to start the engine and then waiting 3 minutes before checking the level.
Thanks for the tip CID!

Thanks guys for all of you comments!

Rand

 

[Tramguage1]

Don't think that will be 100% acuate every time. The oil pan is not flat on these machines, I see where there may not always be same amount of oil in the seperated pans.
My thoughts is if it was that easy then you would check it cold like a normal engine. Just my .02.

 

[Dankathy]

Don't think that will be 100% acuate every time. The oil pan is not flat on these machines, I see where there may not always be same amount of oil in the seperated pans.
My thoughts is if it was that easy then you would check it cold like a normal engine. Just my .02.

Agree. The way honda calls out for checking oil is not unique to the talon, seems to be common for dry sump systems. Must be good reasons for this method