Outlaw trails in WV set to be outlawed.

[Hondasxs]

CHARLESTON — A bill imposing penalties for ATV riders who do not remain on the designated trails in the Hatfield-McCoy Recreation Area has passed the House and was moved to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Introduced by Del. John Shott (R-Mercer County), House Bill 2809 is meant to keep riders off private property.
“Each trail user shall at all times remain within and on a designated and marked trail while within the Hatfield-McCoy Recreation Area,” the bill reads. Driving off the trail can bring a misdemeanor and a fine of not less than $1,000 if convicted.

Any rider who not only drives off the designated trail but also “causes damage to a landowner’s property outside of the designated and marked trail … or interferes with a landowner’s or lawful possessor’s use of the property outside of the designated and marked trail” will be fined not less than $2,000 upon conviction.


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Keeping riders on the trail: Bill imposing possible $1K fines for trespassing ATVs moves to Senate

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[Hondasxs]

This would kill some of the little camp grounds like Riders Paradise, Pinnacle creek, and hill top.

This would essentially make it illegal to ride to or from the camp ground or journey to some of the country stores in the area.

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[Dragon21]

Been following this on multiple facebook groups. I really hope this doesnt pass as I see it hurting the area. Lots of people come to ride those trails. The views and destinations that they provide are something that HMT does not.

I buy a trail pass every year, but still ride the outlaw trails. I enjoy night riding on them and going to some places you cant get to on the HM trails. There are also shortcuts they offer for when we do ride HM trails as well.

 

[Dragon21]

This would kill some of the little camp grounds like Riders Paradise, Pinnacle creek, and hill top.

This would essentially make it illegal to ride to or from the camp ground or journey to some of the country stores in the area.

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As well as some of the guide services like Ziggys and 304 Outlaws.

I dont believe the current HM trails could handle the traffic if that was the only system people can ride.

 

[cwalton]

Keep us posted.

 

[Chooglin]

I "kinda" get it. I bet they have plenty of Aholes on these trails that are destroying , steeling and not respecting the property and owners of this land. There is always those few that mess it up for the rest of us!

 

[Dragon21]

I "kinda" get it. I bet they have plenty of Aholes on these trails that are destroying , steeling and not respecting the property and owners of this land. There is always those few that mess it up for the rest of us!

I absolutely get where this is coming from. People trash these trails with beer cans and other garbage. They end up going places they shouldnt, like active mining sites. I just hate it for the majority that respect the area

 

[DG Rider]

I wonder how many of those "invested" in Hatfield McCoy trail system are behind this bill?

 

[Montecresto]

This would kill some of the little camp grounds like Riders Paradise, Pinnacle creek, and hill top.

This would essentially make it illegal to ride to or from the camp ground or journey to some of the country stores in the area.

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It’s unfortunate that the few ruin it for the many as things usually are... Damaging private property is a serious problem.

 

[Hondasxs]

I wonder how many of those "invested" in Hatfield McCoy trail system are behind this bill?

All.
A Pioneer 1000-5 taking a 1-day family adventure on the Hatfield trails is worth $250.

 

[Hondasxs]

All.
A Pioneer 1000-5 taking a 1-day family adventure on the Hatfield trails is worth $250.

Oh wait... Kids can not longer ride the trails.

 

[Plumber32]

Oh wait... Kids can not longer ride the trails.

Yep that's f ed up.

 

[dnjones161]

I was never one for the outlaw trails anyhow but I have to wonder...is this enforceable?

If it increases hm traffic that's a bad thing imo. It's a pain to try to pass folks all day up there.

 

[Dragon21]

Oh wait... Kids can not longer ride the trails.

I think only under 6. But paying $50 per kid to ride a few days. Plus lodging, gas, and food. that gets expensive

 

[Choogsbro]

I "kinda" get it. I bet they have plenty of Aholes on these trails that are destroying , steeling and not respecting the property and owners of this land. There is always those few that mess it up for the rest of us!

I get too but it still sucks.

 

[Cuoutdoors]

It’s unfortunate that the few ruin it for the many as things usually are... Damaging private property is a serious problem.

I'll have to agree that is the unfortunate truth. There are a lot of folks that lack respect for the land both public and private.

I'm pretty positive someone on our mulberry ride was tossing out cans but I couldn't pin them down. If I ever catch someone they're going to wish they hadn't.

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[Choogsbro]

I'll have to agree that is the unfortunate truth. There are a lot of folks that lack respect for the land both public and private.

I'm pretty positive someone on our mulberry ride was tossing out cans but I couldn't pin them down. If I ever catch someone they're going to wish they hadn't.

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I second that. Pick it in. Pack it out.

 

[Montecresto]

I'm pretty positive someone on our mulberry ride was tossing out cans but I couldn't pin them down.

That is really f***ed up!!!!

 

[100Acre]

I dislike when anybody wantonly destroys private property and litters their unwanted beer/soda cans and especially those that toss their cigarette butts. I love tearing up the trails but only in an area reserved for that. Thats another reason why I prefer riding out west in the vast wilderness. Riding in the east in a controlled regulated private park just isn't as appealing. Riding in the east just blows chunks comparatively.
I've never been to the HM trail system but now it sounds even less appealing. Still it sucks that those brainless twits could care less about the areas they ride. Every time I see someone toss a butt out their window, it makes me wanna get out pick it up and throw it back in their cars. I wish I could use a baseball bat to drive the point home. I'd put spikes through it....

 

[Plumber32]

I'll have to agree that is the unfortunate truth. There are a lot of folks that lack respect for the land both public and private.

I'm pretty positive someone on our mulberry ride was tossing out cans but I couldn't pin them down. If I ever catch someone they're going to wish they hadn't.

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I picked up a few I seen laying around.