P1000 Pioneer 1000 low-end power

[Forbes]

Hey guys sorry I know this has been a topic on here for a while but I haven't found the answer I'm looking for yet so I figured I would just ask. I bought a p1k5 put a 6 inch lift on and running 33 bkts went ridding this past weekend to just see what it would do and it does fine in 2wd but it will not turn them in a rut in 4wd

 

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[Forbes]

I love everything about the bike i just want to know what I can do to get more torque out of it to turn the tires in low range before something happens to it

 

[DDDonkey]

Look at getting a tune, igr, or portals. I have the silber turbo tune and it helps in the low end, but there are other tunes available. The only real way to recover lost power is the regear with irg or portals.

Here is mine 35’s and a 30% gear reduction.

 

[DDDonkey]

 

[Alan_Vander]

Im not sure which igr it is but there is a guy running the satv 6 inch with 32 motohavoks with 25% igr and he turns them just fine his speedo is only slightly off. If you go that route you can actually be a little faster on the trails than with portals. But if i was going portals on a 1000 id go 6 inch with 45% and run 37s.

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[Forbes]

Nice bike man appreciate the info with the gear reduction how does it ride as far as top speed and can u still run the tranny in auto or do u have to run manual shift

 

[Forbes]

Im not sure which igr it is but there is a guy running the satv 6 inch with 32 motohavoks with 25% igr and he turns them just fine his speedo is only slightly off. If you go that route you can actually be a little faster on the trails than with portals. But if i was going portals on a 1000 id go 6 inch with 45% and run 37s.

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Thanks yea I'll probably go with the igr and keep what I got i don't ride as hard I as I used to lol just something to go play every now n then to get the wife n me out the house

 

[DDDonkey]

Nice bike man appreciate the info with the gear reduction how does it ride as far as top speed and can u still run the tranny in auto or do u have to run manual shift

Mine rides great, my top speed is 59 mph but that is plenty for me. I went with portals because I did not want to get into the engine/trans so my shifting is stock.

 

[Schmeg]

Mine rides great, my top speed is 59 mph but that is plenty for me. I went with portals because I did not want to get into the engine/trans so my shifting is stock.

A bit off topic, but now that we are into summer riding, has the Silber tune made a difference in cab temperat for your buggy?

 

[DDDonkey]

No not at all, I do hear the fan kick in more often (I asked to have them come on at a low temperature). I need to do a long term review, but I have had no issues with the tune at all. The pioneer has not passed 2 bars on the temp gauge either in riding any where from sea level to 7k feet in the last 400 miles.

To be far I never had a heat issue in the cab but that could just be me. The only time I get hot is slow moving with the windshield on in the summer, I just run the half shield anyway and that helps with the dust.

 

[Schmeg]

No not at all, I do hear the fan kick in more often (I asked to have them come on at a low temperature). I need to do a long term review, but I have had no issues with the tune at all. The pioneer has not passed 2 bars on the temp gauge either in riding any where from sea level to 7k feet in the last 400 miles.

To be far I never had a heat issue in the cab but that could just be me. The only time I get hot is slow moving with the windshield on in the summer, I just run the half shield anyway and that helps with the dust.

My butt gets hot, even with the DEI heat shield in place. I didn’t want to do a bilge fan, so I might consider a tune if that would cool my butt down. It’s that or do a pipe wrap or both.

 

[DDDonkey]

I can’t guarantee the tune will stop your butt from getting hot. It’s not a big deal to me so you may want to try to rap in the bilge pump first to be honest.

 

[Adam490]

My butt gets hot, even with the DEI heat shield in place. I didn’t want to do a bilge fan, so I might consider a tune if that would cool my butt down. It’s that or do a pipe wrap or both.

I don't think anyone who has done the pipe wrap has seen any benefit.

 

[Schmeg]

Good to know. Looks like a tune or a bilge fan is in order. I’m leaning toward a tune.

 

[Russ989]

Look at getting a tune, igr, or portals. I have the silber turbo tune and it helps in the low end, but there are other tunes available. The only real way to recover lost power is the regear with irg or portals.

Here is mine 35’s and a 30% gear reduction.

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[Forbes]

Who all is out there that does the igr on the bikes only one iv found is reduction boss are there any other options

 

[aauman88]

Nope Reduction Boss is it and yes they have to modify your trans case for it to work. I went portals and tune. Haven’t found anything I can’t either spin the tires in or get traction and climb out of. 4” 30% portals and PV3 with Morris tune.

Also didn’t like the shifting issue IGR causes

 

[ohanacreek]

Im not sure which igr it is but there is a guy running the satv 6 inch with 32 motohavoks with 25% igr and he turns them just fine his speedo is only slightly off. If you go that route you can actually be a little faster on the trails than with portals. But if i was going portals on a 1000 id go 6 inch with 45% and run 37s.

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IGR is closer to 21% and running 32’s effective gearing will be about 3% lower than stock.

 

[ohanacreek]

Who all is out there that does the igr on the bikes only one iv found is reduction boss are there any other options

No they have the patent.

 

[ohanacreek]

Nope Reduction Boss is it and yes they have to modify your trans case for it to work. I went portals and tune. Haven’t found anything I can’t either spin the tires in or get traction and climb out of. 4” 30% portals and PV3 with Morris tune.

Also didn’t like the shifting issue IGR causes

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if you are doing a tune use a Talon ECU with IGR solves shifting issues and you can remove the torque management. Then you don’t need to rebuild/change oil in portals, don’t have steering issues or ball joint problems associated with larger tires with the additional forces the portals put on the suspension.

IF you’re in the mud all the time portals are fine but other than that look at IGR and a Talon ECU