P700 Trannny slips

[Gunrunner]

When outside temperature gets to about 40 degrees the transmisson slips untill it gets warmed up. Honda 700 pioneer

 

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[Hondasxs]

Hi and welcome.

When you say "warmed up", are you talking 1-3 mins or longer?
A few mins is normal. The torque converter is finicky cold.

 

[Hondasxs]

Oh. Also forget to mention make sure you check the oil CORRECTLY. Follow the book guidelines.
We even recommend putting it to the top check line and not the middle as most.

 

[allgm1]

sounds about right if your oil level is good as @Hondasxs said. I know I can't just jump in mine and go til its had a while to warm up.

 

[Russ989]

As stated by @Hondasxs, I always make sure the oil level is at the top of the mark on the dip stick. I also start mine and let it idle a minute or two before taking off. Just the nature of the beast with the 700.

 

[TomB985]

I don't have a P700, but this thread has me curious. What exactly happens when you try and drive before warming it up?

Neither my mom's P500 or my P1000 do anything strange when cold, but of course they have completely different transmissions.

 

[Russ989]

I don't have a P700, but this thread has me curious. What exactly happens when you try and drive before warming it up?

Neither my mom's P500 or my P1000 do anything strange when cold, but of course they have completely different transmissions.

Your moms p500 is basically a wet clutch foot shift atv tranny operated with electronic shift solenoid system (no foot needed). The 1000 is a dual clutch tranny with shift solenoids. The 700 is a torque converter tranny, more like a truck or car, the oil has to warm up and expand enough for the torque converter to function properly (operates on a hydraulic basis).

 

[TomB985]

Yeah, I was aware of the differences with the fluid coupling. What doesn't make sense to me is that automatic transmissions for cars have been using this type of system for decades, and seem to operate fine without warming up. What makes the P700's system different? How does it behave if you try and drive when cold?

 

[tjoreo]

Yeah, I was aware of the differences with the fluid coupling. What doesn't make sense to me is that automatic transmissions for cars have been using this type of system for decades, and seem to operate fine without warming up. What makes the P700's system different? How does it behave if you try and drive when cold?

The 700 uses the engine oil to drive the torque converter, vs a car having separate automatic transmission fluid.

 

[Hondasxs]

The 700 uses the engine oil to drive the torque converter, vs a car having separate automatic transmission fluid.

I'm no expert. But this is what I think too.

And as for what will happen?
Nothing really.
That's the beauty of the torque converter. But im sure if you do it every time you'll find create a problem.

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[Tramguage1]

My 700 would not shift properly when I would ,start it up and drive away. I would have to let it run for 30 to 60 seconds first. I live in Central Texas where it doesn't get real cold.

 

[allgm1]

if I get in mine when its cold without warming it up it does ok in first gear but shifts really slow into second but when it comes time for third gear its like some one pushed the clutch pedal in.I have to let off the gas a little and it will catch again in second gear, then shift to third. My understanding it that the oil isn't flowing (because its cold=thick) into the torque converter fast enough so it can transfer the power. This is a real pain in the neck during the winter,it has to be warmed up even after sitting for a few hours after a ride, one would think it would be warm enough but NOT.

 

[Russ989]

I’ve heard switching to the Honda HP full synthetic oil helps. I spoke with a tech at Honda a few weeks ago that confirmed that oil is compatible with our pioneer 700’s.

 

[Deluxe700]

I’ve heard switching to the Honda HP full synthetic oil helps. I spoke with a tech at Honda a few weeks ago that confirmed that oil is compatible with our pioneer 700’s.

I use the Honda Full Synthetic Oil...No Problems...It does help over conventional oil in my opinion.

 

[allgm1]

I don't see any harm in letting it warm up, after all its not really a bad thing to let the engine warm up before using it. I'll continue with the regular good ol been around forever dino oil and let my rig warm up for a a while, i'm in no hurry to go anywhere anyway.