'22 RMAX4 1000 XT-R Build & Experiences

[JACKAL]

I’m going to have to look at the back seat of a 1000 then. I spent a day riding in shooter’s 2 seater at TO. I liked it. If the back seat is in the ballpark of comfortable I have to seriously consider the RMAX4. You have your daughters wedding and won’t be at MOM now, correct?

I rode in the back of a Talon X4 for about 20 minutes and it felt cramped to me. It had a speaker mounted to the rear grab bar though in the center so it could have been mostly that being where my knee naturally wanted to be.

The motor failures I’ve heard about with the KRX makes me very nervous about getting that 4 seater but sitting in one is definitely comfortable both front and back.

I have to look at the P1K6 in person as well. It’s the least appealing to me personally but it probably makes the most sense in reality for my family.

Damn decisions. Lol.

No I will not be here from September 25th to October 2nd.

The Pioneer 1000-6 will have the most legroom, foot room by far of what you mentioned above. That said, the seating in the RMAX4 front and back is comfortable, especially on the back over a long day.

 

[JACKAL]

Dang it Jackal! I don’t want to hear the P1K6 is definitely something I have to let the family compare if legroom is a big part of the decision. I want to rule it out beforehand. Help a brother out here. 🤣😂. My 10 year old is 5’5 already. There is a decent likelihood all three of my girls will be around the 6’ mark.

Dumb question I could easily go find the answer to…is the R Spec the base model for the Rmax? And is the XT-R the highest?

R-Spec
XT-R
Limited

are the three trim levels, read the spec sheet on website for differences

 

[NTCPrezJB]

R-Spec
XT-R
Limited

are the three trim levels, rear the spec sheet on website for differences

I see multiple Yamaha’s available at pretty much every dealer site I look at and they are being discounted 2k below MSRP or more. WTF is Honda’s problem? They still seem to just have a trickle of machines. They are available but it seems to require more effort to find one in a dealer showroom.

Is Yamaha produced/assembled in the states? I know the Honda’s are.

Is Honda just being more cautious to not “flood” the market with machines?

 

[JACKAL]

I see multiple Yamaha’s available at pretty much every dealer site I look at and they are being discounted 2k below MSRP or more. WTF is Honda’s problem? They still seem to just have a trickle of machines. They are available but it seems to require more effort to find one in a dealer showroom.

Is Yamaha produced/assembled in the states? I know the Honda’s are.

Is Honda just being more cautious to not “flood” the market with machines?

The XT-R and limited are being discounted $5 to $6k at several dealers. But the XT-R like mine jumped from $26k to 29.2K for 2023, so you're shooting for $24k and tax no fees for a good price.

 

[JACKAL]

I see multiple Yamaha’s available at pretty much every dealer site I look at and they are being discounted 2k below MSRP or more. WTF is Honda’s problem? They still seem to just have a trickle of machines. They are available but it seems to require more effort to find one in a dealer showroom.

Is Yamaha produced/assembled in the states? I know the Honda’s are.

Is Honda just being more cautious to not “flood” the market with machines?

Yamaha’s are built in Georgia. They have a robust supply chain. Local dealer in Knoxville has 20+ RMAX4 1000 on hand and six Talon 1000RS Live Valves.

Honda is having supplier issues, mainly shocks from SHOWA that they use now. That's the hold up and why only Fox Live Valve 1000R were announced.

 

[Mbradley42]

@JACKAL have you sat in the backseat or had an adult in the backseat of the RMAX4 yet?

They comfy I promise I've already rode back there a few miles

 

[Backwoods]

I see multiple Yamaha’s available at pretty much every dealer site I look at and they are being discounted 2k below MSRP or more. WTF is Honda’s problem? They still seem to just have a trickle of machines. They are available but it seems to require more effort to find one in a dealer showroom.

Is Yamaha produced/assembled in the states? I know the Honda’s are.

Is Honda just being more cautious to not “flood” the market with machines?

JB I live 50 minutes from the factory. They also have a proving grounds on site. It’s a big place. Made in Georgia

 

[Backwoods]

JB all brake lines are stainless, a arms are stout. You gotta have the drive modes they are great. Instrument cluster well placed and easy to read steering wheel and grad handle have thick soft grip compound

 

[JACKAL]

So after 4000 miles I finally bent my first tie-rod on the RMAX while guiding a group down that gravel road in Tackett Creek known as No Business Hollow.

We use 2 machines and winches to pull it back enough to finish the last 45 miles of the day.

Took it apart this am and pressed it straight enough until the new ones arrive.

Turns out @lee advice for field replacement of the tie-rod boot clamp on the rack end off an old ATC 110 fitted the RMAX perfectly. I just increased my reliability by 1000%

If you haven't had to replace a tie-rod on your Pioneer yet this is a very helpful thread.....

Multi - Field Stripping a Tie Rod

Does your tie rod look like this? Thought you would customize your Pioneers looks on an old stump? In case you where wondering, it is supposed to look like this: This guide is intended to help you get on your way, it is not a copy of the official factory service manual. Be carful working...

hondasxs.com

 

[Smitty335]

So after 4000 miles I finally bent my first tie-rod on the RMAX while guiding a group down that gravel road in Tackett Creek known as No Business Hollow.

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We use 2 machines and winches to pull it back enough to finish the last 45 miles of the day.

Took it apart this am and pressed it straight enough until the new ones arrive.

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Turns out @lee advice for field replacement of the tie-rod boot clamp on the rack end off an old ATC 110 fitted the RMAX perfectly. I just increased my reliability by 1000%

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If you haven't had to replace a tie-rod on your Pioneer yet this is a very helpful thread.....

Multi - Field Stripping a Tie Rod

Does your tie rod look like this? Thought you would customize your Pioneers looks on an old stump? In case you where wondering, it is supposed to look like this: This guide is intended to help you get on your way, it is not a copy of the official factory service manual. Be carful working...

hondasxs.com

So are you sayin, the Ole Coot can drive a little recklessly? Did you do the 1,500 mile service on the belt?

 

[JACKAL]

So are you sayin, the Ole Coot can drive a little recklessly? Did you do the 1,500 mile service on the belt?

No I'm saying some of the "gravel" in my gravel road riding is 24" in diameter and don't move fer chit when you aren't paying attention.

 

[lee]

Turns out @lee advice for field replacement of the tie-rod boot clamp on the rack end off an old ATC 110 fitted the RMAX perfectly. I just increased my reliability by 1000%

Wait a minuet, you used one of our secret Honda hot tips on a Yamaflaw?
That's it, time to change the secret hand shake.

 

[JACKAL]

Wait a minuet, you used one of our secret Honda hot tips on a Yamaflaw?
That's it, time to change the secret hand shake.

Wait, you guys have a secret handshake?

 

[JACKAL]

So on the night before I pick up my 2024 Pioneer 1000-5 Deluxe (for ME) I have accumulated 5000 miles on the RMAX4 1000, only things broken were from operator error (broke glass windshield, cut a sidewall, and bent a tie rod) beyond that have only done 2 oil changes and still on OEM brake pad - but they need replaced (just been lazy).

Still I could recommend this machine as a great trail machine that is very maneuverable and comfortable for all 4 people. That said the only gripe has been and still is the in cabin noise with the CVT coupled with the windshields front & back combined with the roof compounds the noise heard by the occupants. If I could have the Talon powertrain in this chassis, it would be the perfect combination. Wife likes how this machine sits and rides so it is staying around.

 

[Jerryg]

So on the night before I pick up my 2024 Pioneer 1000-5 Deluxe (for ME) I have accumulated 5000 miles on the RMAX4 1000, only things broken were from operator error (broke glass windshield, cut a sidewall, and bent a tie rod) beyond that have only done 2 oil changes and still on OEM brake pad - but they need replaced (just been lazy).

Still I could recommend this machine as a great trail machine that is very maneuverable and comfortable for all 4 people. That said the only gripe has been and still is the in cabin noise with the CVT coupled with the windshields front & back combined with the roof compounds the noise heard by the occupants. If I could have the Talon powertrain in this chassis, it would be the perfect combination. Wife likes how this machine sits and rides so it is staying around.

Good honest review.

The 850 is a lot less cabin noise, but it's a lot less machine too.

 

[TripleB]

The 850 is a lot less cabin noise, but it's a lot less machine too.

POS JUNK!

 

[Jerryg]

POS JUNK!

You're just jealous.