Talon What paddles on stock rims

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I plan on getting paddles put on the stock rims but recommendations you guys got since the front rim is pretty narrow. Thanks
 
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I plan on getting paddles put on the stock rims but recommendations you guys got since the front rim is pretty narrow. Thanks
15X6.5 rim might be a little tough. 15 inch paddles are hard enough to find and when you do, they are usually pretty big (like 32") and rob a lot of needed power in the sand so it might get expensive for you trying to make that work. You might try...

  1. Finding some cheap takeoffs and put rear rims on the front, that way you can run something of a decent width up front too. Remember that running less than 10 psi on a non-beadlock wheel not recommended.
  2. Get 14" wheels and tires. Priced out, this might be cheaper as your selection will be greater and you can get beadlocks and run the sand tires around 5-7 psi like they are designed to.
 
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15X6.5 rim might be a little tough. 15 inch paddles are hard enough to find and when you do, they are usually pretty big (like 32") and rob a lot of needed power in the sand so it might get expensive for you trying to make that work. You might try...

  1. Finding some cheap takeoffs and put rear rims on the front, that way you can run something of a decent width up front too. Remember that running less than 10 psi on a non-beadlock wheel not recommended.
  2. Get 14" wheels and tires. Priced out, this might be cheaper as your selection will be greater and you can get beadlocks and run the sand tires around 5-7 psi like they are designed to.
So I wound up getting the ss360 tires, they are 32 inch but have less aggressive paddles on it so I’ll see how they do. If they don’t work out I’ll just get the 14’s and go for the smaller version.
 
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So I wound up getting the ss360 tires, they are 32 inch but have less aggressive paddles on it so I’ll see how they do. If they don’t work out I’ll just get the 14’s and go for the smaller version.
Interesting concept for a sand tire. Please let us know how they end up working out on a Talon.
 
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I'm in the market for a sand set up as well with the OEM wheels and the SS360 intrigues me as well. My bigger issue is front tire width and being able to fit in my toy hauler. My Raceline 15" wheels with 30" KM3's barely fit so I've got to keep the tire width and that's a challenge. Right now I'm leaning towards CST Sandblast tires. The fronts on those have a 9.8" tire width.
 
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I'm in the market for a sand set up as well with the OEM wheels and the SS360 intrigues me as well. My bigger issue is front tire width and being able to fit in my toy hauler. My Raceline 15" wheels with 30" KM3's barely fit so I've got to keep the tire width and that's a challenge. Right now I'm leaning towards CST Sandblast tires. The fronts on those have a 9.8" tire width.

you ever try jacking up your front end and then strapping it together so the suspension won’t compress? I’m not sure about the rear though
 
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you ever try jacking up your front end and then strapping it together so the suspension won’t compress? I’m not sure about the rear though
Nope. Haven't thought of that. Seems like a PITA though.
 
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you ever try jacking up your front end and then strapping it together so the suspension won’t compress? I’m not sure about the rear though
Nope. Haven't thought of that. Seems like a PITA though.
Just out of curiosity, I went out the the garage and tried this to see if it would work. Took a cheap ratchet strap, hooked it to the lower control arms on both sides where the brace attaches (about 2/3 out on each control arm), lifted up on the bumper to unsettle the suspension, ratcheted, lifted, ratcheted, etc 4 time and to my amazement, it lifted the front end and narrowed it about 3 inches. Did it without a jack, took less than a minute. Had a lot of pressure on the strap so I would recommend something other than a cheap 1" strap.

I would not label this as a PITA at all.
 
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Just out of curiosity, I went out the the garage and tried this to see if it would work. Took a cheap ratchet strap, hooked it to the lower control arms on both sides where the brace attaches (about 2/3 out on each control arm), lifted up on the bumper to unsettle the suspension, ratcheted, lifted, ratcheted, etc 4 time and to my amazement, it lifted the front end and narrowed it about 3 inches. Did it without a jack, took less than a minute. Had a lot of pressure on the strap so I would recommend something other than a cheap 1" strap.

I would not label this as a PITA at all.
OK, fair enough. Let's just say it's something that probably wouldn't want to do. Especially sine my Talon lives in my toy hauler.
 
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OK, fair enough. Let's just say it's something that probably wouldn't want to do. Especially sine my Talon lives in my toy hauler.

you should really try driving it around some day.

It really is more fun than keeping it in the toyhauler. ;)
 
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Got them in, will mount this week

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Got them mounted but won’t be able to test until next year

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Now I'm thinking I may just do rear paddles on the stock rims and just try that first.
 
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Those tires interest me. I'd like to try them in the snow. I read a review on them and they said they actually kept up better than they expected with true paddles in a drag race, but we're way more fun for carving dunes.

Did you get the 12" rears and 10" fronts? Or 10s all around?
 
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Those tires interest me. I'd like to try them in the snow. I read a review on them and they said they actually kept up better than they expected with true paddles in a drag race, but we're way more fun for carving dunes.

Did you get the 12" rears and 10" fronts? Or 10s all around?
i got the 12 in the rear and 10 in the front, i think the 12 would look to big on the front
 
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I'm interested to see how these handle also, My worries are 1- that if you go with stock rims you have to get 32" tall and in the sand it may bog it down to much in higher gears. And 2-I read somewhere that its was to much paddle for a stock rzr1000. I know they are small paddles but there is a lot of them.
 
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I'm interested to see how these handle also, My worries are 1- that if you go with stock rims you have to get 32" tall and in the sand it may bog it down to much in higher gears. And 2-I read somewhere that its was to much paddle for a stock rzr1000. I know they are small paddles but there is a lot of them.

I’m using 32 inch km3’s right now on all 4 and there about 45lbs each with rim, I’ve done some sand hill climbs with those and was able to keep it in third gear MT all the way up. The ss360 tires are half the weight with the wheels, if any I’ll flip the front wheels around if it’s to aggressive in 4wd
 
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i got the 12 in the rear and 10 in the front, i think the 12 would look to big on the front

Right, I was curious if you went 10" all around. I'd do 12" all around, but only in the snow, for sand only I'd do 10 in the front.

Well for sand only, like darrik said, going to 14s and 30s would probably be better. But I'm sure it'll be fine.
 
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