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While digging around the C.A.R.B site during the latest discussion of the mythical Honda "Talon", i came across this test result...
https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/ofhrv/ofmcatv_comply/2019/yamaha_sv_um0040307_847.pdf
It shows the X4's more powerful 850 being certified for a machine called the Wolverine "X2".
Following is a lot of speculation that may be rendered pointless at any moment with an announcement and/or further test results published on the CARB site....
Seems like one of the biggest complaints among 2 seat Wolvy owners will be addressed, right?
Well....there have been some people associated with the UTV/ATV aftermarket who have been saying that a 2 seat version of the X4 was imminent. Looking around FB and other areas, they are, again, sticking by their guns that this is NOT the current 2 seater with the new engine. I also see no mention on the CARB site of the 708 version (or ANY 708cc engine...more on that in a minute). They have also stated that the 850 would not fit where the current 700 resides.
Adding to this possibility; Someone (I'm thinking @CumminsPusher for some reason ) mentioned that they were told the current X2 accessories were NLA for order, or would be stopped very soon?
Would Yamaha really drop the current 2 seater over a 2 seat X4 in the mold of the Teryx?
I hope not. Makes no sense to me. Everyone to a man says the current 2 seater has a superior chassis and suspension to the X4, and I didn't find the X4 to have a lot of room (though that could be changed with the removal of the rear seats).
The only way this makes sense is if they now make the rear section dump, in which case you'd have a modern Rhino. But why do that when you already have the Viking?
The other explanation is that the current 2 seater is simply getting revised. The model designations on the CARB site seem to support this (YXE vs YXF ).The Wolvy (on the spec sheet, anyway) has always been in the shadow of the General, introduced at roughly the same time (at least until the General catches fire and casts a nice, warm glow on the Wolverine). 100HP and a bigger, DUMPING bed make it split the difference between a RZR and Ranger nicely.
Adding a slightly bigger dumping bed would do nothing to take away the current Wolverine's trail prowess, but expand its utility usefulness. I'd be in on this, even with the "old" engine.
...and speaking of the "old" 700 (actually a 708); It looks like NOTHING for 2019 M/Y lists this engine. Even the Grizzly looks to have reverted back to the older 686cc, which I believe is still used in the Viking (and was less powerful). It could simply be that nothing with this engine has been tested yet, but that suggests there will be 2 Grizzly's with different engines...and again, that makes no sense.
Dropping the 708 cold turkey makes me wonder why?
https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/ofhrv/ofmcatv_comply/2019/yamaha_sv_um0040307_847.pdf
It shows the X4's more powerful 850 being certified for a machine called the Wolverine "X2".
Following is a lot of speculation that may be rendered pointless at any moment with an announcement and/or further test results published on the CARB site....
Seems like one of the biggest complaints among 2 seat Wolvy owners will be addressed, right?
Well....there have been some people associated with the UTV/ATV aftermarket who have been saying that a 2 seat version of the X4 was imminent. Looking around FB and other areas, they are, again, sticking by their guns that this is NOT the current 2 seater with the new engine. I also see no mention on the CARB site of the 708 version (or ANY 708cc engine...more on that in a minute). They have also stated that the 850 would not fit where the current 700 resides.
Adding to this possibility; Someone (I'm thinking @CumminsPusher for some reason ) mentioned that they were told the current X2 accessories were NLA for order, or would be stopped very soon?
Would Yamaha really drop the current 2 seater over a 2 seat X4 in the mold of the Teryx?
I hope not. Makes no sense to me. Everyone to a man says the current 2 seater has a superior chassis and suspension to the X4, and I didn't find the X4 to have a lot of room (though that could be changed with the removal of the rear seats).
The only way this makes sense is if they now make the rear section dump, in which case you'd have a modern Rhino. But why do that when you already have the Viking?
The other explanation is that the current 2 seater is simply getting revised. The model designations on the CARB site seem to support this (YXE vs YXF ).The Wolvy (on the spec sheet, anyway) has always been in the shadow of the General, introduced at roughly the same time (at least until the General catches fire and casts a nice, warm glow on the Wolverine). 100HP and a bigger, DUMPING bed make it split the difference between a RZR and Ranger nicely.
Adding a slightly bigger dumping bed would do nothing to take away the current Wolverine's trail prowess, but expand its utility usefulness. I'd be in on this, even with the "old" engine.
...and speaking of the "old" 700 (actually a 708); It looks like NOTHING for 2019 M/Y lists this engine. Even the Grizzly looks to have reverted back to the older 686cc, which I believe is still used in the Viking (and was less powerful). It could simply be that nothing with this engine has been tested yet, but that suggests there will be 2 Grizzly's with different engines...and again, that makes no sense.
Dropping the 708 cold turkey makes me wonder why?
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