Funny symptom in water?

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Good afternoon. Took my 2018 Pioneer 700-4 out on its first real hunting trip this weekend and I was thoroughly impressed with its load carrying abilities. Anyways...

We were going through a flooded rice field that was either under the floor or right at it (never had water across the floor) and it was chugging along fine. Then it seemed as if I was letting off the gas and I wasn’t. I just pushed the gas further down and obtained the throttle level I had previously. This happened maybe twice in about 15 seconds then went away and the throttle was back to normal. I have 28” tires and a 2inch lift. We were bouncing up and down over ruts but like I said, never had water over floor. It never sputtered or ran rough or died, it just ran less throttle like I was slowly taking my foot off the gas to kill it but I wasn’t.

What could cause this and what do I need to check? Thanks!
 
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Good afternoon. Took my 2018 Pioneer 700-4 out on its first real hunting trip this weekend and I was thoroughly impressed with its load carrying abilities. Anyways...

We were going through a flooded rice field that was either under the floor or right at it (never had water across the floor) and it was chugging along fine. Then it seemed as if I was letting off the gas and I wasn’t. I just pushed the gas further down and obtained the throttle level I had previously. This happened maybe twice in about 15 seconds then went away and the throttle was back to normal. I have 28” tires and a 2inch lift. We were bouncing up and down over ruts but like I said, never had water over floor. It never sputtered or ran rough or died, it just ran less throttle like I was slowly taking my foot off the gas to kill it but I wasn’t.

What could cause this and what do I need to check? Thanks!
I would check the air intake ducting for lose hose clamps in-between floor and skid plate, some of the P1's had that issue, haven't heard of a P7 with those issues?
 
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Oil looks clean and the filter box looks clean as a whistle. Am I looking for water intrusion at the air box?
 
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I would check the air intake ducting for lose hose clamps in-between floor and skid plate, some of the P1's had that issue, haven't heard of a P7 with those issues?
7 hunnit doesn’t have intake going to front of bike... I think he just hit soft mud or something...
 
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It was noticable and we weren’t really spinning tires bad. I was maintaining a constant rpm with a certain level of pedal pressure. Then with that same pedal pressure, engine rpm started going down. I pressed down a good bit further and got to the desired rpm for a few seconds and it went back to normal. Never ran rough or sputtered. I just got the pioneer and don’t know the ins and outs yet, but I wondered about the TPS/throttle electrics.
 
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You may have not been shifted down in first gear and was stuck in second. I really don't think you can effect anything with water that shallow.
 
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You may have not been shifted down in first gear and was stuck in second. I really don't think you can effect anything with water that shallow.

I have the deluxe and had the bike in manual 1st. Just trying to make sure I didnt cause an issue that will come back to bite me later.
 
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Really hard to tell. With water being right at the floorboards there is nothing really to effect unless you were splashing it around hard. I think it just needed some more throttle. 28" tires on a 700 will put more strain on it.
Ex. Your not going to cruse through grass then hit mud/water and stay at the same RPM's without applying more peddle.
 
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Maybe it's unrelated to the water you were driving in. Could have got some bad gas or water in the gas.
 
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Well before I write it off and move on, is there anything else I need to check? Filter box still looked brand new. Oil looks good.
 
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All I can suggest is get intimate with your machine!
Grab a few cans of electrical contact cleaner and a tube of dielectric grease. Start cleaning and greasing every connection on your machine, whether below or above your potential water depth.
 
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All I can suggest is get intimate with your machine!
Grab a few cans of electrical contact cleaner and a tube of dielectric grease. Start cleaning and greasing every connection on your machine, whether below or above your potential water depth.

Is there a thread or sticky somewhere that has all the details on the how-to for breather tube extending? Don’t want to full out snorkel it, but just some preventative help. I don’t plan to ever be up to seat. I see everyone reference doing it, but don’t actually see a post on how.
 
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I know @Bayouownbeer offers a kit with instructions for the 1000. I would reach out to him and see what he offers or is his recommendation for the 700.
@DG Rider is another damn good resource on the 500/700 platform.
 

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