P1000 2021 Honda Pioneer 1000 deluxe lift

[Alaska350]

So I recently added 1.5” super Atv a-arms to the front so I could run my bigger tires but now I feel my back bottoms out here and there thanks to the bigger tires. I plan in installing the rear a-arms this weekend to help give the rear a little more room but with the normal weight I run in the back (canopy and dogs) I am thinking a small lift or new springs would help. I already adjusted the back shocks 2 clicks and it bottoms out less but still happens on rough fast bumps.

I have read that a 2-3” lift will require new axles if I have the arched forward a-arms installed but I want to avoid that if I can. Does anyone know if there is a 1” lift spacer kit available or heavy duty springs that will work but allow me to keep the stock axles?

 

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[P1K5Dave]

You've got choices but you got bad info on axles and lift. You can run 3" lifted and forward arms with the standard axles.

One option that would greatly improve your ride quality would be to upgrade from your stock shocks to Fox or the like with heavier springs on the rear.

How big are your dogs anyway? I find it a bit odd that you're bottoming the stockers. They're stout, if not comfortable.

 

[Remington]

How big are your dogs anyway

I think it's the dogs and the heavy wood canapy combo

 

[Remington]

So I recently added 1.5” super Atv a-arms to the front so I could run my bigger tires but now I feel my back bottoms out here and there thanks to the bigger tires. I plan in installing the rear a-arms this weekend to help give the rear a little more room but with the normal weight I run in the back (canopy and dogs) I am thinking a small lift or new springs would help. I already adjusted the back shocks 2 clicks and it bottoms out less but still happens on rough fast bumps.

I have read that a 2-3” lift will require new axles if I have the arched forward a-arms installed but I want to avoid that if I can. Does anyone know if there is a 1” lift spacer kit available or heavy duty springs that will work but allow me to keep the stock axles?

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What @P1K5Dave said about shock upgrade. You add preload to those shocks to get your lift without sacrificing your geometry to the machine with bracket lifts.

 

[Alaska350]

You've got choices but you got bad info on axles and lift. You can run 3" lifted and forward arms with the standard axles.

One option that would greatly improve your ride quality would be to upgrade from your stock shocks to Fox or the like with heavier springs on the rear.

How big are your dogs anyway? I find it a bit odd that you're bottoming the stockers. They're stout, if not comfortable.

My dogs are German shepherds and weigh about 160 total. The canopy can’t weigh more than 75-80Ibs I wouldn’t think since I used aluminum 1” tubing and 1/2 plywood. The bulk of the weight I would say comes from the full OEM cab parts. It’s only bottomed out 2-3 times and that was in a big dip at about 35 mph. If you look at the pic you can see with the bigger tires it doesn’t have a lot of travel room. I’m not looking to spend 1500 or more on new shocks unless one of my shocks craps out…..then it’s justified. Was hoping I would go with 1” spacers but you are saying I can safely run a 3” lift with the a-arms safely so maybe I’ll order a 2” lift.

 

[P1K5Dave]

I wonder if you mean rubbing instead of bottoming out? It seems more likely that your tire would rub.

A number of us here really don't recommend those 2" bracket lifts. I know a lot of guys run them, but mine had one on it when I bought it and it rode like a brick. You take the stock shocks that are already sub-par in the ride category, then you push them out to be more vertical so they ride even rougher.

 

[Rayger143]

I wonder if you mean rubbing instead of bottoming out? It seems more likely that your tire would rub.

A number of us here really don't recommend those 2" bracket lifts. I know a lot of guys run them, but mine had one on it when I bought it and it rode like a brick. You take the stock shocks that are already sub-par in the ride category, then you push them out to be more vertical so they ride even rougher.

I agree. I received a 2" bracket lift for a gift. Installed it and removed it after 2 rides. I've since went with fox shocks and 28s. Night and day. Springs are next.

 

[Alaska350]

I wonder if you mean rubbing instead of bottoming out? It seems more likely that your tire would rub.

A number of us here really don't recommend those 2" bracket lifts. I know a lot of guys run them, but mine had one on it when I bought it and it rode like a brick. You take the stock shocks that are already sub-par in the ride category, then you push them out to be more vertical so they ride even rougher.

Correct, should have said rubbing. Don’t want the tires to eat my mud busters lol

 

[Remington]

A number of us here really don't recommend those 2" bracket lifts

You dont say? 🤔 Where did u ever get that Idea 🤣

 

[Alaska350]

You've got choices but you got bad info on axles and lift. You can run 3" lifted and forward arms with the standard axles.

One option that would greatly improve your ride quality would be to upgrade from your stock shocks to Fox or the like with heavier springs on the rear.

How big are your dogs anyway? I find it a bit odd that you're bottoming the stockers. They're stout, if not comfortable.

If I where looking to do only 1” lift could I just do 1/2” spacers on the shocks? And if so what diameter? Or do you guys firmly not recommend that?

 

[WagginTail]

If I where looking to do only 1” lift could I just do 1/2” spacers on the shocks? And if so what diameter? Or do you guys firmly not recommend that?

Spacers definitely stiffen the ride up. On my 700 I tried a bracket lift and spacers. Ride was pretty bad. On my 1000 I sucked it up and did the a arms with fox shocks. Much better ride now. 1/2" spacers should get you 1" of lift though

 

[Robobrainiac]

If you want to be cheap and don't mind the stiff ride go with the lift. To me the stock shocks suck with or without the lift. I have stock shocks, high lifter arms and lift and I don't mind mine.