P1000 2022 P1000 rack center learning-vs-vehicle center learning

[ODAMO]

What is the difference between "rack center learning" and "vehicle center learning"?
And why would the latter need to be done? Does it take into acct. tracking of the rear axle?

 

[Remington]

Dont try and reinvent the wheel

 

[Hondasxs]

What is the difference between "rack center learning" and "vehicle center learning"?
And why would the latter need to be done? Does it take into acct. tracking of the rear axle?

I looked at this, I was going to post instructions about how to do it but I left confused after reading it.
I may try to post the page images.

 

[Hondasxs]

Dont try and reinvent the wheel

Its already done, Now we need directions on rolling it.

With the new 2022+ units you cant just straighten your tires by moving the tie rod joints in/out or adjusting the steering wheel position.
The Rack has a center function that must be set as well.

 

[ODAMO]

Its already done, Now we need directions on rolling it.

With the new 2022+ units you cant just straighten your tires by moving the tie rod joints in/out or adjusting the steering wheel position.
The Rack has a center function that must be set as well.

I have the manual and read what to do but would like to know why I'm doin it. It seems to be taking total dynamic 4 wheel alignment into acct. and diagnosing how "dog assed" the vehicle wants to run at.
Am I thinking straight?

 

[ODAMO]

Dont try and reinvent the wheel

Just want it to roll straight...

 

[Hondasxs]

It's part of the "return to center" feature.
Going to make alignment 3 times more difficult to get correct.

 

[ODAMO]

Sounds like it. And to think its one of the simpler utvs out there. I bet it would be fun working on one of the $50,000 units available.

 

[Remington]

Going to make alignment 3 times more difficult to get correct.

Thats what I meant. Its like that here in the Auto industry as well. They cant leave well enough alone

 

[CID]

Thats what I meant. Its like that here in the Auto industry as well. They cant leave well enough alone

Exactly why I didn't pony up for the Live Valve and, judging by the number of posts on failures, I chose wisely. Too much complexity for the environment. Sure, it's cool as Hell on paper, but much too complex for the real world. And instead of figuring it out and getting it right, they'll keep 'upgrading' the complexity and NEVER get it right.

 

[HondaTech]

Exactly why I didn't pony up for the Live Valve and, judging by the number of posts on failures, I chose wisely. Too much complexity for the environment. Sure, it's cool as Hell on paper, but much too complex for the real world. And instead of figuring it out and getting it right, they'll keep 'upgrading' the complexity and NEVER get it right.

Your in luck, this new procedure is included on all 2022 and newer P1K and 2023 and newer Talons.

 

[Jankyeye]

Checking alignment on my 22 has been on my short list of things to do for a while, seems to pull left slightly. Didn't realize there were extra steps.

 

[ODAMO]

The procedure may seem like its extra work trying to align but it appears to assist in getting a truly aligned vehicle. It finds the kinematic center using steering motor torque. If I understand it right, if the rear axle alignment is out(and I suspect most are) this method seems to take that into account and compensate for it.