Talon Contenders for Talon trail tires.

[JACKAL]

Does anyone know 100% if the bolt pattern is still 4x136mm like on the Pioneer 1000's?

That question aside, in more than one video the covering press kept asking about why the 28" tires vs. competitors on 32" from factory. They did get a response from the Honda staff saying 30" tires would clear fine.

After what I learned in my Roctane XD experiences on a Pioneer 1000 from OEM to 30x10x14 back to 28x10x14 then back to OEM tires on my LE. I will be very picky on tire weight this time. Many of those 32" & 34" tires weighs 48-54 pounds each vs. approximately 34 pounds on the OEM Talon tires, (basing this off 32# weight of 27" Pioneer OEM tires).

All of that unsprung weight and rotational mass will have a huge effect on suspension performance, acceleration performance, and wear and tear on driveline and steering rack.

There are a few 30x10x15 tires that weighs 37-38 pounds these might prove to be just the right combination all around. However there are a couple of 32x10x15 tires also under 40 lbs each, which if they clear with factory suspension geometry would be great for the rugged trails.

Looking at:

ITP Blackwater Evolution 30x10x15, 30.1" diameter, 33.0# weight
Tusk Terrabites 30x10x15, 28" diameter, 35.5# weight
ITP Ultracross R Spec 30x10x15, 30.3" diameter, 36.2# weight
STI Chicane 30x10x15, 30.3" diameter, 36.5# weight

ITP Blackwater Evolution 32x10x15, 32.3" diameter, 36.8# weight
ITP Ultracross R Spec 32x10x15, 32.3" diameter, 39.5# weight
Tusk Terrabites 32x10x15, 31.0" diameter, 39.5# weight

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The only Roctane XD in 15" wheel is 34x10x15 and weight 56# per tire.

 

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[ohanacreek]

I would say Blackwaters light solid and tough.

The whispers are that it’s the same 4/137 compatible pattern but you’ll need a 15” wheel.

 

[JACKAL]

I would say Blackwaters light solid and tough.

The whispers are that it’s the same 4/137 compatible pattern but you’ll need a 15” wheel.

Yes definitely the lighter the better, I know a few of you have had great results with the Blackwaters on the P1K's. Hoping those 32" sizes will clear lock to lock without modifications, guess it depends if the OEM 28" tires are really 26" or 28", definitely have the fender clearances.