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Spent 4 days in Silverton Co
Did lots of trails
Beautiful scenery
Honda Talon great

Full story:
Went for a little ride.
Base camp was Silverton Colorado. The main objective was the Alpine Loop through the San Juan Mountains. The travel guides say 65 miles. Not sure if that includes the 12 mile spur from Silverton to get to the loop.

First off let me talk about the trails around here. Rough is an understatement. The roads are paved with broken up rocks and none of the rocks are laying flat. You have a constant washboard. They are brutal with very little let up in the constant pounding. The scenery on the other hand is spectacular.

First day we arrived after a 7 hour drive and quickly unpacked at our Airbnb in Silverton. We headed out for a quick evening ride to Animas Forks ghost town. It’s 12 miles from Silverton and the kids hadn’t been there before. Cool little mining town from the 1870s.

The real adventure started on day two. The “Loop”. We headed back to Animas Forks and picked up the start of the loop taking Cinnamon pass to Lake City. Topping out at 12640 it’s relatively easy. The first climb from Animas Forks is steep, rough and rocky but easily handled by the Talon. The views are spectacular and the twists and turns through the mountains are fun and amazing. We stopped here and there to take in the views and eventually made it in to Lake City. Lake City was packed with off roaders. After a quick lunch we headed back to Silverton on the second half of the loop. Engineer pass took us back. This one gets to 12800 feet and has views that are just as amazing. Far less snow than I expected. The loop had only been opened for 3 weeks or so. Sometimes it doesn’t open until mid July but this year it was really clear with nothing to speak of for snow. That and the warm temperatures surprised me. Normally it’s colder and a lot more snow at the top. I’ve seen pictures of people driving through 12-15 foot canyons of snow at the top in other years.

Anyway we finished the loop and had a great ride. The only negative was the aforementioned constant pounding of the rocky roads. I was tired but not as bad as a couple years ago when I did the loop on a motorcycle.

Day three we took a break from the SXS’s and drove the trucks to Teluride. There we drove up what is the Teluride end of Black Bear pass to Bridal Veil falls and the 1909 vintage power station. Treturous road and this trip on it’s switchbacks convinced me I didn’t want to do the whole trail.

Day four we decided to do a few more trails from Silverton rather then trailer into Ouray and hit some of the passes that start from there. So we headed back out towards Animas Forks and took a left up Picayune right before the ghost town. This one starts off with some steep and serious up. It takes you into the area southwest of The Loop.

This area was more what I had expected. Even though it’s only a few miles from the previous passes there was a lot more snow and damn cold at the top. The passes aren’t particularly higher, like Hurricane is listed at 12730 but there was a lot more snow. We wandered around the area pretty much all morning and stopped for lunch at the top of California pass. (12930) From there you can see forever and the gorgeous views all around wherever you look. A camera can not do justice to the sights around you.

We headed down the west side to try to get to Pookipsie gulch. I wanted to see what the Talon could do on “The Wall” but unfortunately that trail was still snowed in.

Instead we just tried out whatever trail looked interesting like Corkscrew and Red Mountain pass and several others in that section. Some of the smaller, less traveled trails were technical and challenging but nothing the Talon didn’t gobble up and handle with ease.

By mid afternoon the storm clouds were threatening and we decided to head back. It started to rain before we could get back over Hurricane but fortunately no snow as we crested the top. We had a very cold wet ride back but our rain gear did its job and we made it back to Silverton just covered in mud but happy with another awesome day of riding.

Overall I’m very pleased with the Talon. It’s gas mileage is quite a bit better than the RZR we were with and the DCT is awesome. Being able to shift up and quiet down the motor is a huge plus. It climbed anything and everything with ease and has more than enough power to go wherever we pointed it. It’s suspension is a bit harsh but not painfully so. It did develop an incredibly annoying squeak/rattle from the rear window and roof not being bolted down properly, but I can’t blame that solely on the Talon. The previous owner had taken them off and I missed a few bolts when I went over it making sure everything was tight before the trip. I had carried spare tires having heard the stock tires were fragile but never needed them in spite of not exactly babying it over the rough rocky roads.

We probably won’t go back to that area anytime soon but we thoroughly enjoyed it. Especially the non-loop trails. I’ll post a video link once I get it put together.

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Take a look at our club ride there in 2020 in the Rocky Mountain trails section. Beautiful place! Lots of sidetrails to get lost on, too.
Has Silverton pulled their head out of their rectum and resumed in town OHV passage? They had cut off the town edge of the loop which prevented a true OHV Alpine Loop trip.
 
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Take a look at our club ride there in 2020 in the Rocky Mountain trails section. Beautiful place! Lots of sidetrails to get lost on, too.
Has Silverton pulled their head out of their rectum and resumed in town OHV passage? They had cut off the town edge of the loop which prevented a true OHV Alpine Loop trip.
Silverton is still no OHVs in town. So even though we were staying there we had to trailer out of town to hit the trails. One shop keeper we talked to said it’s the slowest he has seen the town in years. Lake City was really busy. Go figure. I think Silverton’s policy has hurt them big time.
 
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Cliff notes:
Spent 4 days in Silverton Co
Did lots of trails
Beautiful scenery
Honda Talon great

Full story:
Went for a little ride.
Base camp was Silverton Colorado. The main objective was the Alpine Loop through the San Juan Mountains. The travel guides say 65 miles. Not sure if that includes the 12 mile spur from Silverton to get to the loop.

First off let me talk about the trails around here. Rough is an understatement. The roads are paved with broken up rocks and none of the rocks are laying flat. You have a constant washboard. They are brutal with very little let up in the constant pounding. The scenery on the other hand is spectacular.

First day we arrived after a 7 hour drive and quickly unpacked at our Airbnb in Silverton. We headed out for a quick evening ride to Animas Forks ghost town. It’s 12 miles from Silverton and the kids hadn’t been there before. Cool little mining town from the 1870s.

The real adventure started on day two. The “Loop”. We headed back to Animas Forks and picked up the start of the loop taking Cinnamon pass to Lake City. Topping out at 12640 it’s relatively easy. The first climb from Animas Forks is steep, rough and rocky but easily handled by the Talon. The views are spectacular and the twists and turns through the mountains are fun and amazing. We stopped here and there to take in the views and eventually made it in to Lake City. Lake City was packed with off roaders. After a quick lunch we headed back to Silverton on the second half of the loop. Engineer pass took us back. This one gets to 12800 feet and has views that are just as amazing. Far less snow than I expected. The loop had only been opened for 3 weeks or so. Sometimes it doesn’t open until mid July but this year it was really clear with nothing to speak of for snow. That and the warm temperatures surprised me. Normally it’s colder and a lot more snow at the top. I’ve seen pictures of people driving through 12-15 foot canyons of snow at the top in other years.

Anyway we finished the loop and had a great ride. The only negative was the aforementioned constant pounding of the rocky roads. I was tired but not as bad as a couple years ago when I did the loop on a motorcycle.

Day three we took a break from the SXS’s and drove the trucks to Teluride. There we drove up what is the Teluride end of Black Bear pass to Bridal Veil falls and the 1909 vintage power station. Treturous road and this trip on it’s switchbacks convinced me I didn’t want to do the whole trail.

Day four we decided to do a few more trails from Silverton rather then trailer into Ouray and hit some of the passes that start from there. So we headed back out towards Animas Forks and took a left up Picayune right before the ghost town. This one starts off with some steep and serious up. It takes you into the area southwest of The Loop.

This area was more what I had expected. Even though it’s only a few miles from the previous passes there was a lot more snow and damn cold at the top. The passes aren’t particularly higher, like Hurricane is listed at 12730 but there was a lot more snow. We wandered around the area pretty much all morning and stopped for lunch at the top of California pass. (12930) From there you can see forever and the gorgeous views all around wherever you look. A camera can not do justice to the sights around you.

We headed down the west side to try to get to Pookipsie gulch. I wanted to see what the Talon could do on “The Wall” but unfortunately that trail was still snowed in.

Instead we just tried out whatever trail looked interesting like Corkscrew and Red Mountain pass and several others in that section. Some of the smaller, less traveled trails were technical and challenging but nothing the Talon didn’t gobble up and handle with ease.

By mid afternoon the storm clouds were threatening and we decided to head back. It started to rain before we could get back over Hurricane but fortunately no snow as we crested the top. We had a very cold wet ride back but our rain gear did its job and we made it back to Silverton just covered in mud but happy with another awesome day of riding.

Overall I’m very pleased with the Talon. It’s gas mileage is quite a bit better than the RZR we were with and the DCT is awesome. Being able to shift up and quiet down the motor is a huge plus. It climbed anything and everything with ease and has more than enough power to go wherever we pointed it. It’s suspension is a bit harsh but not painfully so. It did develop an incredibly annoying squeak/rattle from the rear window and roof not being bolted down properly, but I can’t blame that solely on the Talon. The previous owner had taken them off and I missed a few bolts when I went over it making sure everything was tight before the trip. I had carried spare tires having heard the stock tires were fragile but never needed them in spite of not exactly babying it over the rough rocky roads.

We probably won’t go back to that area anytime soon but we thoroughly enjoyed it. Especially the non-loop trails. I’ll post a video link once I get it put together.

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What a Novel! Ill read the rest later in the library🤣🥳
A large group from the forum went and did the Alpine loop in 19’ we would love to go back . Its quite a hike from here but well worth it.
Had a great time. Photos look familiar lol.
@100Acre @Koda in the one pic
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Good to hear its hitting them where it hurts. Sad for those who are for OHV traffic, but economic pain will be the only thing the liberal idiots might understand. We will be going back to the area when our situation allows but will stay in Ouray and trailer up to Imogene, Red Mountain, and go to the top of Black Bear.
 
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Silverton doesn't have a liberal problem they have (had) an idiot problem. SxS people are some of the most disrespectful groups of riders on the planet. They think nothing about driving around with their radios blaring at all hours and in places where not everyone wants to hear that garbage. SxS people also like to drive like idiots on the roads around there, so combine all that stupidity together in one location and then ask yourselves why they don't want that s*** in their town. Duh!

Being able to finance offroad toys has completely ruined off roading as a whole and it the reason OHV areas are getting closed down. Make sure to thank your fellow SxS enthusiast driving off the marked trails, blaring music nobody wants to hear and throwing trash all over next time you wonder why s*** gets shut down......

Signed,
A guy that has built and wheeled rock crawlers all over the country since before SxS's were a thing and watched it all go down from the outside looking in.
 
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For those of us (including members of our club ride in '20 who don't fit that type), it sucks. I will agree I also detest the idiots that have brought this, but don't forget the people who rent a road legal jeep with no idea what they're doing and attempt a greenhorn descent of Black Bear, only to be starred in a end over end down the mountain video. They just get to do it leagally.
Regarding the rock crawlers, I watched Barnwell Mountain Offroad park in northeast Texas go from a fun place to ride ATV's in 2002 before SxS's were even on the market to practically impassable in a few years by the jeeper crowd qouging out the trails.
 
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I’m planning on hitting Colorado in August September and riding alpine loop, Taylor park, twin lakes, red cone and wherever else i can go. @Remington please come ride with us. Me and the two meatheads…

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I’m planning on hitting Colorado in August September and riding alpine loop, Taylor park, twin lakes, red cone and wherever else i can go. @Remington please come ride with us. Me and the two meatheads…

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I would love to again. Too many plans at the present time. I need to plan a year in advance for that trip. More than the average days off taken from work. 2 full days travel with the TH to get there for me. Hopefully in the few years tho.
 
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Would love to make another trip out there. Spent 6.5 days in July/2020 and rode 436 miles based out of Silverton(before the ban).
 
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@100Acre I'm currently sitting next to a fire camping in Utah.
My new (been working on this change for a bit, you may remember asking to show the wife your 4 wheel camper) paradigm is to alternate, SxS then Overlanding.

The SxS is not welcome some places and the attitude some have thinking it's all about money is as well thought out as the political angle they like to blame.
I like what a SxS dose and how it can be a budget friendly solution to get people out there.
But unfortunately there is no IQ test to finance one.
(Yes it's a rant, and yes I'm in a position to make one)

Picture from today, 4 mile hike each way in 95* temps.
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Hovenweep National Monument (NM from back in the day where it protected some national treasure, not some president's legacy).
 
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Vids from the second day of the trip where we explored around the trails not on the Alpine Loop.
They are "What we saw is what you get." I edited out the stops to shorten them, but other than that they have no production values what-so-ever. With all of them the camera masks just how steep some of the trails are. You can hear the engine lug down at times, but the Talon handled them with ease. The top of the passes were 12000 feet plus with some over 13000. At no time did I feel we were lacking HP.

Picayune Trail San Juan mountains just outside of Silverton Co.youtu.be

San Juan mountains Picayune to California just outside of Silverton Coyoutu.be

San Juan mountains: Gladstone Cement Creek Hancock side trail off Hurricane and Red Mountain passesyoutu.be

San Juan mountains: Hurricane/California in the rainyoutu.be