P500 Thinking of running 4+3 offset, wheels

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I was thinking of running the ITP Steel Deltas 12x7, 4+3 offset, 4x110 with 26x9x12 in front and 27x11x12 in rear, with Kenda Bear Claws. Any thoughts?
 
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if you run taller in the rear you will have issues in 4wd as the gear ratios will be off.
 
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I'm running ITP 12" steelies with 4+3, with 27" Bearclaw HTRs. Love it!

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I initially wanted to run 4+3 so that I could get extra width without the need for spacers. That way I could run a 4+3 setup and have a very wide stance but change back to stock tires and rims to get back to 50'' easily if needed. Without spacers I'd only have to worry about half of the lugs. Ended up getting 5+2 rims because the 4+3 options are pretty limited and difficult to source at the moment. With an RB3 wide-track kit I'm now essentially where I would have been with 4+3's.
IMHO you should do whatever you want (you won't be too wide either way), but your options for wheels will open up dramatically if you can settle for 5+2. You can always add spacers to achieve the desired width if you aren't satisfied with the 5+2 stance.
 
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I have Kenda Bear Claw HTR 26x9x12 in front and 26x11x12 in rear on ITP delta steelies 5+2. My front width went from 50" to 52 3/4" and rear width went from 49" to 53 1/8" over the stock wheels/tires. I'm very happy with this setup.
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I ended up ordering Tusk Cascade Aluminum wheels black with a 5-2 offset with Tusk Mud Force Tires 26x9x12 front and 26x11x12 rears.
Will post pictures when i have them on. Ordered from Rocky mountain.
 
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I have a WARN VRX 2500s and love it. Used it to pull a quad out of clay soup, save myself from same soup, pull an rzr up a sketchy hill, and pull myself into a tree to work on the skidplates and running wires. It was about $300 but make sure you get the mounting kit as well.
 
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Superwinch in Terra series 45s (4500lbs with synthetic line) is what I use and recommend. Stronger steel gear sets, lower amp draw then most other winches. Waterproof... and I use KFI mounting bracket and plough... very robust, can be bought on Amazon for great price.

Cheers,
 
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So if I’m understanding correctly the 4x3 will widen the overall width 2 inches more than the 5x2? Futzin are you having issues with mud spray with the wider stance or are the fenders still catching most of it.
 
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Think of it this way, you are using a 7 inch wide rim. The numbers for offset represent inches available in the total width of the rim and so will always equal 7 for us. A 4+3 offset pushes the mounting position of the wheel so that there is only 4 inches from mounting point to exterior sidewall and 3 inches from mounting point to interior sidewall, thus pushing the width of the vehicle out 1 inch for each wheel relative to a 5+2. A 5+2 offset puts the mounting point for the wheel 5 inches from exterior sidewall and 2 inches from interior sidewall, which is a total of 2 inches more narrow than a 4+3.

I have 5+2 offset wheels WITH 1 inch spacers, which puts my total width equal to the width i would have with 4+3 wheels and no spacers.

With my rig at 57 inches wide, I had mud flying all over the place until I got the Mudbuster fenders. They caught so much mud on my last trip that would have otherwise ended up in my face. If the tires are the widest part of the P5, you will throw mud into the cab.
 
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So if I’m understanding correctly the 4x3 will widen the overall width 2 inches more than the 5x2? Futzin are you having issues with mud spray with the wider stance or are the fenders still catching most of it.

My tire stance with 4+3, no spacers, and 27X9 front and 27x11 rear is 53.5". Yes, mud was an issue. Would have to exit holes slowly till the tires cleaned somewhat. Outside of buggy always muddy. Not too much on driver/passenger though. Recently installed full set of Mudbusters front and rear. I prefer the look without the kit, but the protection is excellent. However, the rear of the machine now measures about 56.5 inches from outer rear fender to outer rear fender. Tire footprint of course still the same. Not crazy about the look, honestly. Have yet to take it on any tight trails since the kit install, but I did nearly get stuck in the first hole I dropped into; high revs to get out, no mud thrown.
 
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Thinking I'll stay stock width for now. Have 26/11 and 9/12 Bearclaw HTRs on it with stock rims. only have 10 miles on it so will see what stability is like before I widen. When I took it down gravel road that had lots of loose pebbles on it it was definitely drifting left and right a little of a disconcerting feeling. LIke if I would have over corrected it might roll. That was only above 20 MPH which I don't hit that often
 
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Experiment with air pressure including possibly different front and rear.
 
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