Video - Honda Talon 1000R-4, HL6, Full Project Presentation July 2023. Updates, Changes, and General info.

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Maybe next month you can find a X. 5d55b841d767da967706bd5bb92a3b6a

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So did they move front a arms back 2.7 or change frame ?
When asked, They said only the front arms were moved back in relation to the 2022 models.
This combined with X steering rack components led to a 2-foot increase in turning radius for the Talon R model.
 
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When asked, They said only the front arms were moved back in relation to the 2022 models.
This combined with X steering rack components led to a 2-foot increase in turning radius for the Talon R model.
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Then why did they put the X SR on a 23R?
Ok. Let's recap for you.
The 2022 R has forward arms vs thr Xand a rack made for the long travel.
The 2022 X has a rack that allow for better turning.
The 2023 "S" model is the same as the 2022.
Remember "S" Model = a 2022 model.

For the real 2023 R models, honda moved the a-arms back 2 inches and used some parts of the X rack to give the new 2023 R almost 2 foot better turning radius.

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Ok. Let's recap for you.
The 2022 R has forward arms vs thr Xand a rack made for the long travel.
The 2022 X has a rack that allow for better turning.
The 2023 "S" model is the same as the 2022.
Remember "S" Model = a 2022 model.

For the real 2023 R models, honda moved the a-arms back 2 inches and used some parts of the X rack to give the new 2023 R almost 2 foot better turning radius.

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My bad, thought you said increased turning turning radius, that make since! I've changed my opinion about the i4WD, with the addition of the front locker added, wonder where Honda got that idea? HA!
 
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The X vs R rack is just the housing width, the R rack is wider and the tie rod bottoms out against the housing before it turns further.

We made a X rack out of a R rack by machining down the ends until our RaceCo rack came in.
 
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The X vs R rack is just the housing width, the R rack is wider and the tie rod bottoms out against the housing before it turns further.

We made a X rack out of a R rack by machining down the ends until our RaceCo rack came in.
Just to add - the reason for that is CV angles. The X's CV angles are less than the R's due to the angle the axle intersects the front wheel (further forward on the R resulting in sharper angles). Learned from someone a whole lot smarter than myself.
 
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