P700 2016 700 having issues with clutch or trans ???

[Srchamberlin]

hey guys I have a 2017 700
has around 600 miles, started having issues with trans slipping.
Changed oil and filter all Pam
went out on a ride did good for awhile , then was a little hard to start after taking a break. Started to go up a decent incline and blew a big puff of smoke and acted like it was looking power. Made it to top and came out of it but continued to act up rest of ride.
The next day I got it out to do some yard work and seemed like it was ok , but started slipping again. Barely made it back to garage ???
just changed oil and adjusted valves last time it did this thought that would help but didn't last.
Put new filter , oil, and plugs and air filter before we went riding .
any suggestions or help please

 

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[Srchamberlin]

sorry all OEM parts and oil

hey guys I have a 2017 700
has around 600 miles, started having issues with trans slipping.
Changed oil and filter all Pam
went out on a ride did good for awhile , then was a little hard to start after taking a break. Started to go up a decent incline and blew a big puff of smoke and acted like it was looking power. Made it to top and came out of it but continued to act up rest of ride.
The next day I got it out to do some yard work and seemed like it was ok , but started slipping again. Barely made it back to garage ???
just changed oil and adjusted valves last time it did this thought that would help but didn't last.
Put new filter , oil, and plugs and air filter before we went riding .
any suggestions or help please

 

[Russ989]

hey guys I have a 2017 700
has around 600 miles, started having issues with trans slipping.
Changed oil and filter all Pam
went out on a ride did good for awhile , then was a little hard to start after taking a break. Started to go up a decent incline and blew a big puff of smoke and acted like it was looking power. Made it to top and came out of it but continued to act up rest of ride.
The next day I got it out to do some yard work and seemed like it was ok , but started slipping again. Barely made it back to garage ???
just changed oil and adjusted valves last time it did this thought that would help but didn't last.
Put new filter , oil, and plugs and air filter before we went riding .
any suggestions or help please

What did the oil look like when you drained it? Are you having engine trouble and clutch trouble?

 

[Srchamberlin]

What did the oil look like when you drained it? Are you having engine trouble and clutch trouble?

oil looked dirty
was smoking every time you hit gas then would go away so I changed it had a shop change plugs and adjust valves
then I changed air filter before I went riding did ok for about an hour then started same stuff as before

 

[Srchamberlin]

oil looked dirty
was smoking every time you hit gas then would go away so I changed it had a shop change plugs and adjust valves
then I changed air filter before I went riding did ok for about an hour then started same stuff as before

 

[Srchamberlin]

it seems like a power and trans issue acts like trans is slipping

 

[Srchamberlin]

is there any way to test clutch or transmission

 

[Russ989]

is there any way to test clutch or transmission

There is a way to test the trans but you need special gauges to do it. You shouldn’t be seeing smoke from the exhaust, you may have a camshaft issue possibly, it’s just about the only weak link on the 700’s.

 

[Srchamberlin]

where can I check transmission ??
with the right guages

 

[Srchamberlin]

with a cam issue would it only act up at times?

 

[Russ989]

where can I check transmission ??
with the right guages

Bottom front there are three ports up there to hook up the gauges.

 

[Russ989]

with a cam issue would it only act up at times?

I’m not sure.
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[Russ989]

You could try this to somewhat eliminate the transmission.

Transmission fail safe. How does it work.

Check your oil level as well, the 700 transmission is very touchy about how it operates in conjunction with the oil level. They like to run FULL! Follow this procedure below. Also, make sure that you have at least one bar on the temp gauge before moving the pioneer.

 

[Alan_Vander]

doesnt sound like a cam issue. cams usually progress slowly over time or just flat go out pretty quick depending on how you ride. sounds more like a ring or valve issue being your smoking. pull your spark plug and check it. can try a compression test as well. until you find out the issue with the motor the trans really wont feel right. my buddy put car oil in his 1 time. and went well over miles on change and now his clutches arent slipping but the trans doesnt want to shift at the correct time.

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[Farmer]

Does the engine rev high when the trans is slipping?

Has it ever been in deep water?

 

[Srchamberlin]

Does the engine rev high when the trans is slipping?

Has it ever been in deep water?

yes it revs high and it's been in water and mud

 

[Farmer]

Sounds to me like you need to make a trip to the dealership for some diagnosing.... If it's been submerged and run with water..... they take several oil changes to get it all out, then you could have worn rings and bad compression. Low power could feel like a slipping trans. So could water in the torque converter if the oil wasn't changed multiple times after flooding. The torque converter uses engine oil so it's a pain to get it all flushed. You could search some flooded 700 posts to see what others have done.

 

[Farmer]

Also, going in a completley different direction.... I know these things had issues with spark plug boots breaking every time they were touched. It got to the point that they say to plan on having replacement boots on hand in case you need to pull the plug for some reason. So, maybe bad spark. But that would probably be more of a sputter than a lack of power. The smoking makes me wonder though.