P1000 COPS overheat kit , from what and how its made , premature engine wear vs Correct Ways of solving overheating issues on P1000.

[solrus]

COPS overheat kit , from what and how its made , premature engine wear vs Correct Ways of solving overheating issues on P1000.​

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I try to concise and summarize my research on the overheat issue that everyone eventually will have once push extremely your p1000 on a trail or using track systems on warm Spring days.​

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I'll start with first myth that COPS is partnered with thermostat company which modify high flow thermostat , I think Dezrik Parks always makes comments on this subject about that its "press cut".​

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One of the customers of COPS shared with me his overheat kit thermo pics. Its heavily "modified" with file and sander and not a clean job as you can see, pointed with red arrows.​

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I spoke with MOTORAD USA who makes most of thermo for major retailers and they found only on 44 mm with offset that would fit honda , but its 180 F not lower.​

I'm listing two examples of Autozone and Napa thermostats that are the same but labeled differently.​

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They will be good for light modification using sander and fit since they have offset already.​

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Please read article and it will explain to every small detail that lowering thermostat temps will fail your engine faster unless you racing and dont care about engine longevity.​

Link - Low Temp Thermostats: What’s the Advantage?

Low Temp Thermostats: What’s the Advantage? | Tuner University

Solution is combination of the following depending on how hard and how high altitude you ride :

1. Tune which will change temp range on/off for a radiator fan
2. Spal or similar high flow fans
3. Bigger surface radiator
4. Davies Craig Digital Thermatic Fan Switch Kit - Davies Craig DC-0444 Davies Craig Digital Thermatic Fan Switch Kits | Summit Racing
5. Manual fan switch ( not optimal )
6. Adding heater core will act as second smaller radiator
7. If you know another way please suggest.

 

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[DG Rider]

What about the gap between the fan and radiator that several have posted? Several automotive apps have rubber weatherstripping types of shielding in this area, or are almost flush. Pulling air around the radiator doesn't do nearly as much as pulling it through it.
Don't know how much it will help, but it's something I'd want to "fix" as a fundamental before I moved on to something else.

 

[solrus]

What about the gap between the fan and radiator that several have posted? Several automotive apps have rubber weatherstripping types of shielding in this area, or are almost flush. Pulling air around the radiator doesn't do nearly as much as pulling it through it.
Don't know how much it will help, but it's something I'd want to "fix" as a fundamental before I moved on to something else.

Yes, me too, but going to Mexico on Monday. If you can R and D this and post a solution that would be awesome!

 

[DG Rider]

Yes, me too, but going to Mexico on Monday. If you can R and D this and post a solution that would be awesome!

LOL...well, I'd love too but I don't have a 1000.

 

[Remote]

WOW. I have driven my P1000 for miles on dirt roads on warm days with tracks on, in spring, at altitude, with never a temperature issue. Been doing it for 4 years now. In our local P1000 community of riders, only one had an overheat issue and that was a run lean ECU problem IIRC. The machines in question live at a minimum of 7700 feet and are operated up to 12K feet. They do more than a few hi double digit mileage rides over slow climbing steep mountain passes.. We had one down to 4800 last weekend in Utah in mid 80 temps tooling thru sandy slot canyons for miles, climbing boulders, all low-speed hi temp stuff with zero temperature issues. I wonder what we are doing right, if our machines, being older, are tuned different, or if we are just lucky?

 

[Hondasxs]

WOW. I have driven my P1000 for miles on dirt roads on warm days with tracks on, in spring, at altitude, with never a temperature issue. Been doing it for 4 years now. In our local P1000 community of riders, only one had an overheat issue and that was a run lean ECU problem IIRC. The machines in question live at a minimum of 7700 feet and are operated up to 12K feet. They do more than a few hi double digit mileage rides over slow climbing steep mountain passes.. We had one down to 4800 last weekend in Utah in mid 80 temps tooling thru sandy slot canyons for miles, climbing boulders, all low-speed hi temp stuff with zero temperature issues. I wonder what we are doing right, if our machines, being older, are tuned different, or if we are just lucky?

It does seem to be luck of the draw.

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[DG Rider]

@solrus I see you've been making new friends on FB. I would bet a lot of people will appreciate the info you've provided.

 

[solrus]

@solrus I see you've been making new friends on FB. I would bet a lot of people will appreciate the info you've provided.

Lots of trolls attacking.

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[DG Rider]

Lots of trolls attacking.

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FaceBook is troll central.

 

[bigshoe]

I seen your guys little spat on fb that guy is a clown. I really don't understand why people think a thermostat controls engine temp. The only purpose of a thermo is to get engine to operating temp faster. engine temp is controlled by the fan and rad. Bigger rad more heat it can dissipate lower fan temp lower engine temp.

 

[DG Rider]

I seen your guys little spat on fb that guy is a clown. I really don't understand why people think a thermostat controls engine temp. The only purpose of a thermo is to get engine to operating temp faster. engine temp is controlled by the fan and rad. Bigger rad more heat it can dissipate lower fan temp lower engine temp.

Thermostats...no thermostats. Fan overrides. Those may all help and even seem to fix it, but those are Band-Aids for a bigger problem.

 

[Cuoutdoors]

The best solution is the radiator and fan kit from TCP.

 

[bigshoe]

I'm not sure what problems everyone is referring to. Does anyone ride with Any rzrs or can-ams far as I can tell hondas cooling system is pretty good. went for a ride last weekend in thick sloppy muddy trails me and a Rex are the only ones that didn't overheat. all of them carried a sprayer to clean out there rads constantly over heating when a booger gets in there rad there was 1000 bikes at this ride didn't see one honda spraying out there rad alot of rzrs and can-ams littered the trails spraying there rads out.