GM to make and sell ev utv in 2023

[P1K5Dave]

...as are the solar and wind power markets. Just a giant welfare program for politically-connected corporatists.

 

[CID]

The rush to electric is not a market-driven phenomena. It is the product of government control. Last I remember, if you took out all of the subsidies a Tesla would cost about a quarter milllion.

This is the problem - instead of letting electric vehicles displace ICE engines as they become more fiscally competitive, our corrupt gubmint is interfering with the free market and mandating EVs over ICE vehicles. Kommiefornia's recent fiasco - please don't charge your electric vehicles, we don't have the electrical capacity to allow that even though we've mandated that no new ICEs will be allowed after 2035 - even as few EVs as are on the road at this time.

There's nothing on the horizon indicating that technology will allow fiscally competitive EVs by that time. And there's been NO ATTEMPT to start legislation to upgrade the grid to handle the mandated loads. The f***ing leftist politicians are insane and the idiot leftist voters just keep voting them into office. We are so f***ed.

 

[ODAMO]

Letting it go that route would be devastatingly too late for the environment that supports us.
Scientists from all around the globe agree its become now or never

 

[P1K5Dave]

Climate "crisis" is a lie taught to school children to fuel the state/corporate wealth consuming machine.

But "F0Llow tHe sC1Ence!" Right? It seems like the world should have learned a good hard lesson about this technocratic BS during PandeMania, but...

 

[ODAMO]

Climate "crisis" is a lie taught to school children to fuel the state/corporate wealth consuming machine.

But "F0Llow tHe sC1Ence!" Right? It seems like the world should have learned a good hard lesson about this technocratic BS during PandeMania, but...

Tell that to all the frogs, toads, crawdads, minnows, snails, that I used to see in the woods on a daily, Now it’s a Treat to see . And I am starting to see some rebound since the world shutdown reduced pollution in many ways.

 

[Smitty335]

Tell that to all the frogs, toads, crawdads, minnows, snails, that I used to see in the woods on a daily, Now it’s a Treat to see . And I am starting to see some rebound since the world shutdown reduced pollution in many ways.

When we first bought our 12 acres I was a herbicide spraying junkie, then noticed the frogs, toads, moles and Road Runners all but disapeared. Finally put 2 & 2 together 10 years ago and quit spraying herbicide and there back. I use rock salt for grass barrier, it's works pretty good.

 

[P1K5Dave]

Aaaaaannnnnd I'm out...