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CumminsPusher

CumminsPusher

Just a Honda doing Honda things.
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ToddACimer

ToddACimer

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Has anyone been threatened with a cease and desist over a patent or more appropriately a provisional patent pending?


I made some cool reverse lights for my truck. Improved on several commercially available ideas and posted about it on a Facebook group. I did not make these to sell and I did not sell these but I did post parts and instructions how to build them for about 1/4 the cost of the commercially available parts. I was informed that any revenue generated from this idea was protected by patent and would be pursued legally if necessary.

I don't really have a plan to make more but where does the gray area start on this?

My parts on the truck vs the other guy. IMO using factory mounting holes that exist on every truck doesn't make this idea patentable and installing different lights in a similar tube doesn't infringe on the idea.

Either way, backing up is better now.

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Plumber32

Plumber32

Go ride!
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Has anyone been threatened with a cease and desist over a patent or more appropriately a provisional patent pending?


I made some cool reverse lights for my truck. Improved on several commercially available ideas and posted about it on a Facebook group. I did not make these to sell and I did not sell these but I did post parts and instructions how to build them for about 1/4 the cost of the commercially available parts. I was informed that any revenue generated from this idea was protected by patent and would be pursued legally if necessary.

I don't really have a plan to make more but where does the gray area start on this?

My parts on the truck vs the other guy. IMO using factory mounting holes that exist on every truck doesn't make this idea patentable and installing different lights in a similar tube doesn't infringe on the idea.

Either way, backing up is better now.

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Don't make money at it. Easy enough. But I understand they came out with a product and it took time and thought unless it's a complete scam. Kinda like figuring out how a shock company shims their shocks, and the exact spring they use. And telling the world. Lol
 
ToddACimer

ToddACimer

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If you're not making money off it, they have nothing to say. They're probably just trying to scare you out of competing with them.
I would agree with the scare tactic. I searched for more info about the company and the owner and found he licensed the product in 2022 to a larger company as patented but neither his company or the licensed company list a patent number.

I have enough other irons in the fire that I don't need to make more of these but it was fun to build a few sets
 
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GovtMule

GovtMule

NTC’s SoA, Chief Sarcasm Officer-Self Appointed
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I would agree with the scare tactic. I searched for more info about the company and the owner and found he licensed the product in 2022 to a larger company as patented but neither his company or the licensed company list a patent number.

I have enough other irons in the fire that I don't need to make more of these but it was fun to build a few sets
I would send them a bag of dicks as a friendly response to their communication!
 
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