P500 Hauling your P500

[oldfortyfive]

I am currently using my 2007 Honda Odyssey and a 2019 Carry-on 6’x8’ single axle trailer to haul my P500. I get about 22 mpg just driving my van but when towing drop down to anywhere from 10–13 mpg. What is everyone else using and what kind of mileage are you getting both just driving and when hauling your buggy? Can a P500 fit in a 6 1/2’ bed with the tailgate down?

Your Odyssey isn’t going to last long towing. I blew the transmission on my Explorer towing my P500. You’re probably ok on short trips under 50 miles. Cross country trips need a real tow vehicle. On long trips the tow vehicle can’t be too big and the trailer too small.

 

[Admin]

 

[WagginTail]

If you're running your truck down to the light coming on, there's no doubt you're having DPF issues. You should always top off at no lower than 1/2 tank and if your vehicle has sat for 3 months or longer, drain the tank before driving. Running one low bakes the DEF Header, and not operating one much causes issues as the DEF fluid starts to crystalize and messes things up

Also, don't purchase DEF Fluid from someplace that probably doesn't sell much. It has a short shelf life. Large truck stop is best place to purchase at the pump

Yep. And Temps over 90 degrees reduce the shelf life tremendously. How many people leave the new jugs of def in the back of the truck and in the sun on a hot summer day

 

[Scoop]

Also, don't purchase DEF Fluid from someplace that probably doesn't sell much. It has a short shelf life. Large truck stop is best place to purchase at the pump

DEF @ the pump is so convenient. Had two truckstops @ the exit from I-94 that I get off at coming home. I always went to the big boy line and filled up the F350 PowerStroke and topped off the DEF @ the pump. I don't think I ever bought a jug of DEF ... ever.

 

[Remington]

If you're running your truck down to the light coming on,

Yes and no. If your running it to 500miles left first light that comes on, that aint hurting a thing. Your getting rid of all old def. But not great practice. Fo sho, running down till limp mode ( last light warning) will entice the rest of you said

 

[Remington]

DEF @ the pump is so convenient. Had two truckstops @ the exit from I-94 that I get off at coming home. I always went to the big boy line and filled up the F350 PowerStroke and topped off the DEF @ the pump. I don't think I ever bought a jug of DEF ... ever.

Def at the pump is convenient fo sho!
But you have to watch how often its moved and u cant tell by the date at the pump cuz its not labeled. Where the big boys go is better.
I buy premium deff with an additive in the box, always check the dates on the box, helps keep the deposits down and u cant get that at the pump. My first ever issue with def I was going through Nox sensors every 35-40k build up from the std deff I was using at both the pump and box (peak) switched to premium deff and the fouling went way down. Started off with the premium in the new truck as well.

 

[Hoosier1960]

If I recall correctly, you are a larger man? With some mobility issues? Loading and unloading a p500 from the bed of a truck might not be too kind on your body.

What kind of distances are you wanting to travel in the future? Your minivan and open trailer at 10-13 really isn't horrible in the scheme of things. If you want slightly better, remove the windshield & roof from the p500 before travelling.

Neohio,
I am indeed a larger guy and do have issues do to my cancer. Thinking more about it, loading it in the back of a pickup is probably a bad idea.
Ty

 

[Hoosier1960]

The whole reason I started this discussion was because I had a conversation with a local friend that goes down to RBB all the time. He has a 2012 Ram with a Cummins diesel. He gets about 22 mpg empty or pulling his buggy trailer. It’s a whole different story if he pulls his toy hauler. There are quite a few Cummins diesels around here as that plant is about 10 minutes from my house. I live where Cummins engines were invented and the Cummins headquarters are.

 

[DaveinWV]

2019 F150 crew cab and 2.7 EcoBoost engine. 19mpg w/o and 15+mpg pulling 10' single axle trailer and 520.

 

[Robobrainiac]

The whole reason I started this discussion was because I had a conversation with a local friend that goes down to RBB all the time. He has a 2012 Ram with a Cummins diesel. He gets about 22 mpg empty or pulling his buggy trailer. It’s a whole different story if he pulls his toy hauler. There are quite a few Cummins diesels around here as that plant is about 10 minutes from my house. I live where Cummins engines were invented and the Cummins headquarters are.

Not to stir any pots but I can believe 22mpg empty but 22mpg towing is hard to imagine. I always recommend using a calculator with correct miles at every fill up to get a real representation of mpg. I do not trust the dashboard readouts.

 

[Red500]

I am currently using my 2007 Honda Odyssey and a 2019 Carry-on 6’x8’ single axle trailer to haul my P500. I get about 22 mpg just driving my van but when towing drop down to anywhere from 10–13 mpg. What is everyone else using and what kind of mileage are you getting both just driving and when hauling your buggy? Can a P500 fit in a 6 1/2’ bed with the tailgate down?

I'd love to get 22 mph even without towing.

 

[Neohio]

The whole reason I started this discussion was because I had a conversation with a local friend that goes down to RBB all the time. He has a 2012 Ram with a Cummins diesel. He gets about 22 mpg empty or pulling his buggy trailer. It’s a whole different story if he pulls his toy hauler. There are quite a few Cummins diesels around here as that plant is about 10 minutes from my house. I live where Cummins engines were invented and the Cummins headquarters are.

You would have to spend a lot of miles towing to offset the cost of a new or new to you diesel truck. I'd say keep running your Minivan until you start losing confidence in it.

 

[WagginTail]

You would have to spend a lot of miles towing to offset the cost of a new or new to you diesel truck. I'd say keep running your Minivan until you start losing confidence in it.

Agree. Maintenance and repair costs for diesels are too expensive

 

[Blownzuki]

We went to Myrtle Beach a week ago and got 30 mpg out of the baby duramax. Not sure what I will get this time towing the Talon to The MOM ride. GovtMule said he’s getting 25 mpg out of his. I drive slower than he does.

 

[Mopower58]

I'd love to get 22 mph even without towing.

That’s what you get for buying a ford. 🤣

 

[Mopower58]

2016 RAM 1500 with a 6.5 X 12 single axle with fold down ramp. 21 empty and 16 - 17 mpg loaded @ 72 mph.

 

[GovtMule]

I'd love to get 22 mph even without towing.

I got that to and from Texas last weekend with the baby Duramax. At 84mph. I can dig it.

 

[JenElio]

The whole reason I started this discussion was because I had a conversation with a local friend that goes down to RBB all the time. He has a 2012 Ram with a Cummins diesel. He gets about 22 mpg empty or pulling his buggy trailer. It’s a whole different story if he pulls his toy hauler. There are quite a few Cummins diesels around here as that plant is about 10 minutes from my house. I live where Cummins engines were invented and the Cummins headquarters are.

Like mentioned before, I'd stick to what you have and make it work. Unless you're towing big loads frequently I wouldn't bother with a diesel.

Our family tow vehicle is an all wheel drive Durango with the little 3.6 and it averages 25 empty and 12 towing a 14' tandem loaded.....around 4500# plus passengers and gear inside.

 

[MI-Trailblazer]

Most of the time when the family heads for the cabin - I put the P5 on a 1960's steel and plywood snowmobile trailer (new axle, tires & LED lights) and hitch it behind the wife's 2015 Chrysler Town & Country. Owner's manual says it has a 1000lb. towing capacity, so I figure I'm over by 400lbs. Use the "sport" shifter to only let the trans go into 5th gear and away I go on a 300 mile round-trip. Been doing that for 5 years now - no issues with the van. But yeah, run empty on the highway and get 23 MPG - with the P5, trailer, van loaded and only up to 5th - about 13MPG.

But for the long hauls:

This was on the way back from the MOXC race in Copemish, MI. Trailer = 6000lbs, machines on it = approx. 3150lbs, so let's say 9200lbs on the ball. Got 16 MPG.

 

[Scoop]

Def at the pump is convenient fo sho!
But you have to watch how often its moved and u cant tell by the date at the pump cuz its not labeled. Where the big boys go is better.
I buy premium deff with an additive in the box, always check the dates on the box, helps keep the deposits down and u cant get that at the pump. My first ever issue with def I was going through Nox sensors every 35-40k build up from the std deff I was using at both the pump and box (peak) switched to premium deff and the fouling went way down. Started off with the premium in the new truck as well.

They are always pumping DEF @ the Pilot/FlyingJ @ Baker Rd & I94.

 

[Remington]

They are always pumping DEF @ the Pilot/FlyingJ @ Baker Rd & I94.

Yes for many years