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Talon Looked at a Talon Today...

Discussion in 'General Talon 1000 Discussion' started by NFA_Fun, Aug 17, 2019.

  1. NFA_Fun

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    Stopped by a dealership today and looked at a Talon. Very nice machine! They only had the 2 door in stock. Wasn't even thinking about looking till my neighbor approached me about buying my 2018 Pioneer LE. The Pioneer has been great and I am satisfied with my original decision. But.....the Talon is nice!

    Have a few questions for those of you that own the Talon. I am looking at the 1000X-4 Fox Live Valve!

    1: I do hunt and like to go explore trails. Not necessarily blow down the road. With the Low Range in the transmission, will the low allow similar performance as the Pioneer in low?

    2: Fit and finish seemed a little nicer than the Pioneer. Any quirks or rattles that will need to be addressed?

    3: The Pioneer is very quite compared to the "others".... Is the Talon quiet?

    4: Can anyone confirm the length and height of the 1000-X? Need to see if it will fit in the Toy Hauler

    5: Anyone go from the Pioneer to the Talon? Thoughts, suggestions, or regrets on the change?

    Thanks!!!!
     
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  2. HUCK

    HUCK Well-Known Member
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    I have a RZR , a Pioneer and a Talon X . The Talon is leaps and bounds above the two .
    Not fair to compare the Pioneer to the Talon . One is a sport UTILITY and the other is a full on awesome sport machine .
     
  3. Someguy

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    I had a pioneer 10003p. I saw the specs someplace gearing is very close, the only difference is in the diffs, trans the same low and high range is the same, tires are1inch larger in Dia. Reverse is slower which is nice. I have the half windshield. Depending on how tall you are will depend where it hits you. Im5'9" hits me about forehead level. Very little dust. I feel some heat through the backrest, it's warm but not hot even when 85degs out. But not between the seat and backrest like the pioneer. The engine and exhaust are father back. OAL is right about 10ft. No regrets I trail ride, much better riding, and handling. Like Huck said one is a sport machine, the other is a utility. The doors don't rattle like the Pioneer. Noise level about the same. I love the machine. Hope that helps.
     
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  4. NFA_Fun

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    Thanks for the replies.

    When I purchased the Pioneer in 18 the Talon rumors were just starting. Wanted to wait, but did want to wait.... The Pioneer has served me well. Have never used the dump bed, only used the rear seats once. Usually just me and my Dad or a friend. The only gripe I have with the Pioneer is the seats get uncomfortable and the heat on warmer days.

    Everything I have in my Pioneer could be hauled in Talon between the small back and the back seats.

    Biggest concern I had (and it was answered) was the ability to go slow over rough terrain. Last trip I took was 40 miles of dirt road, the last few miles was rocky to a spot I fly fish. The Pioneer did good, but from what I have seen, the Talon would be much more comfortable.
     
  5. RockR

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    I'm in a lucky situation: I own both and would not part with either one. As HUCK said, they are not a fair comparison.
    - For fast fun on a wide open area/trail, the Talon obviously wins, but around here (SE Texas) we don't have a lot of those kinds of trails. That being said, the Pioneer can go plenty fast enough to get you giggling.
    - For an all day trail trek, the talon is more comfortable, but I've seen a few folks on this forum change the seats to buckets to solve that. Both machines are "billy goat" capable on trails in low gear. I actually prefer the Pioneer's riding position on technical trails because you can lean out and see front and rear tires easier. The Talon has more clearance and travel to keep you settled in when climbing stuff, but I've had the high center of gravity bite me on the trail too (it is pretty easy to turn back over though).
    - Regarding noise: every utv is going to rattle to some extent. You just find the source and fiddle with it until it stops.
    - I never had the chance to try and fit the Talon in the toy hauler with the stock tires. It is a little longer than the Pioneer so it would be a close fit. Height-wise, they should not have any issues. They look perfectly equal sitting side by side in garage.

    All things considered, if I HAD to choose only one I believe I would actually go with the Pioneer. I don't think I would feel comfortable carrying hunting gear and accessories in the Talon.

    Hopefully this is helpful.
     
  6. 906UP

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  7. mikegriffin84

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    The Talon can go as slow or as fast as you want. Pretty much whatever you did in the Pioneer the Talon will do but it can also rip pretty good when you want to. Low gear is great, people rock climb in this thing at 2 mph no problem. It rides rougher than most machines. PERIOD. There are tender springs kits that fix that problem up that cost in the $400 ranger I believe.
     
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  8. NFA_Fun

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    I have the LE. No complaints with the ride.

    After reading all the responses and spending the weekend I have decided to keep the P1K LE. It is set up the way I want it, performs great, is a solid machine, and paid for! However.....I am going to keep an eye on the Talon and take a good look at the X with the Live shocks when they are back in stock. If or when there is a Talon with a factory turbo I will buy one then, and keep both.
     
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  11. Someguy

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    I didn't catch The 4 seater. They are longer. The X 2seater is 124" long.
     
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