Overlanding and everything related.

[100Acre]

Is there any benefit of using super singles over dually rear wheels for off road or Overlanding?

 

[NewHere2]

Tow vehicle or trailer ?? What size tires?

You should compare the actual footprint of each mounted type.

Old school used to say : look at the logging trucks or agi equipment in your area. What do they use. But they all deal with weight. Off-road vehicles tend to stay on the lite side.

A tall, skinny tire will bite down thru mud and snow better, more pounds per square inch of surface area. A tall skinny tire generally has better traction. Better for power unit.

Wider tires will want to float over the terrain and can loose traction due to the wider foot print. Better for trailers.

About the only time duals might work better off-road is in boggy type soil where you need flotation. That said, if you could get a super single the exact same widrh as the width of the mounted duals, it would work better.

Try driving a semi tractor with duals without weight or a loaded trailer, in mud or snow. Most helpless thing there is.

With all that said, duals on a power unit or trailer will give you more “side bite” if there is plenty of weight on them. Envision sliding sideways on a steep trail that is off camber.

That same “side bite” will make it very hard to turn/spin a trailer around. Especially if trying to move it by hand.

There is always the consideration, if you have a flat with duals, you might be able to limp back home on three tires.

What is the cost of 4 tires and rims vs 2 super singles ??

I’ve run super singles on semi tractors, trailers, and converter dollies. Never in an off roading application, so take it for what it’s worth Dan.

 

[100Acre]

It’d be for the vehicle, not a trailer

 

[CID]

It’d be for the vehicle, not a trailer

Can you post a picture of what you're thinking? Dually means 4 wheels on one axle to me and that seems like it would be too wide for Overlanding (exploring the backcountry on dirt roads). If you're thinking one of those $500k military based trucks that can travel about one mph, not my style; I want to actually get somewhere when I'm exploring.

More money than brains IMO -

 

[NewHere2]

Someone sent me a pic of a “Sherp” for sale on zfacefart. $90,000.

 

[NewHere2]

Here ya go !!

 

[ChadD]

More money than brains IMO

My "friends" say that to me all the time and I don't have any money 🤔🤪🤣🤣

 

[CID]

Tilt table number - 4*

 

[Prntckt]

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Here ya go !!

Size of a Sherp...wont go many of the places my Talon does
OVERALL LENGTH 157" (3,988 MM)
OVERALL WIDTH 101“ (2,570 MM)***
OVERALL HEIGHT 118“ (2,846 MM)

 

[JMynes]

What’s the biggest tire you could run on that without rubbing?

 

[Backwoods]

Will you use tire shine ?

 

[Scoop]

Size of a Sherp...wont go many of the places my Talon does
OVERALL LENGTH 157" (3,988 MM)
OVERALL WIDTH 101“ (2,570 MM)***
OVERALL HEIGHT 118“ (2,846 MM)

But the Sherp can go places our Talons can't. Despite my best efforts, a Talon can not float. These things are BA.





Nice overlander trailer ... lol

 

[100Acre]

I’d take a Sherpa if I lived in Alaska. The was one for sale in Coeur D’Alene recently but I’m not interested in that. I’d rather have a Hagglund. Or a tank. I was just wanting to do some backcountry exploring in my F350 dually. Set the camper back on, seal the leaks and go somewhere SW and look at red rocks

 

[100Acre]

I decided to change the thread name to Overlanding

 

[100Acre]

I think I’m going to go somewhere soon and was reminiscing about my past glamping apparatuses. I was the first guy in the SE to own a roof top tent, which was the direction I took after living under a truck canopy for a couple of years off roading and exploring serious backcountry roads. Then I bought and had modified my 1967 Johnson Furnace M416 1/4 Ton military Jeep trailer. It carried the tent for a few years until I got my current Four Wheel Camper- Hawk.

 

[CID]

I’d take a Sherpa if I lived in Alaska. The was one for sale in Coeur D’Alene recently but I’m not interested in that. I’d rather have a Hagglund. Or a tank. I was just wanting to do some backcountry exploring in my F350 dually. Set the camper back on, seal the leaks and go somewhere SW and look at red rocks.

Tow your buggy, set up camp anywhere and make day rides until the area is done, move to a new area, wash, rinse, repeat.

I have desert sand in my DNA helix. 😍

 

[100Acre]

Just dreaming….

 

[lee]

Is there any benefit of using super singles over dually rear wheels for off road or Overlanding?

This is a yes / no situation.

Duels are not great off road for several reasons.
Having two tires side by side on soft ground is a disadvantage.
A tire pushes up a 'wave' of sand or mud and the tire is constantly trying to climb over the wave.
Airing down will extend the length of the contact patch giving better flotation but the wave is still there.
So duels are trying to climb two bow waves.

Also on rocky ground you can get a rock lodged between the tires.
This will very quickly damage the side walls of the tires in an area that is hard to see.
It pays to stop and check for rocks often.
And, stop and look for rocks stuck between the tires when you hit the pavement - you don't want to throw a rock at some tourist going the other way.
(BMW on your rear bumper - let em have it)

Finally, loading a slide in camper with duels is a pain.

However, if the truck you have has duels it's better to get out there with the truck you have than to be stuck at home because you cant afford to travel with your new truck payments.
Seriously don't let some ideal situation stop you from getting out there.

And, since you changed the title of the thread to anything overlanding, my new cap:

The sleeping platform is east / west so there is a little room left at the tail gate.
It's tall enough to sit in a lawn chair in side.
Just waiting on a futon mattress and a power station (and warmer weather).

 

[100Acre]

This is a yes / no situation.

Duels are not great off road for several reasons.
Having two tires side by side on soft ground is a disadvantage.
A tire pushes up a 'wave' of sand or mud and the tire is constantly trying to climb over the wave.
Airing down will extend the length of the contact patch giving better flotation but the wave is still there.
So duels are trying to climb two bow waves.

Also on rocky ground you can get a rock lodged between the tires.
This will very quickly damage the side walls of the tires in an area that is hard to see.
It pays to stop and check for rocks often.
And, stop and look for rocks stuck between the tires when you hit the pavement - you don't want to throw a rock at some tourist going the other way.
(BMW on your rear bumper - let have it)

Finally, loading a slide in camper with duels is a pain.

However, if the truck you have has duels it's better to get out there with the truck you have than to be stuck at home because you cant afford to travel with you new truck payments.
Seriously don't let some ideal situation stop you from getting out there.

And, since you changed the title of the thread to anything overlanding, my new cap:
View attachment 419451

The sleeping platform is east / west so there is a little room left at the tail gate.
It's tall enough to sit in a lawn chair in side.
Just waiting on a futon mattress and a power station (and warmer weather).

That’s badass Lee!

 

[100Acre]

This is a sweet build