P1000 Pioneer 1000-3 What's Behind The Seat Back??

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This is with Honda hard rear panel, seals it up pretty good and cuts the noise down.
 
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Thanks for posting this.

What is the material that appears to be thin and flexible sheet? It looks like treated cardboard.

What's behind that thin material? If that sheet is removed is the engine, DCT, and transfer case exposed?
 
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Thanks for posting this.

What is the material that appears to be thin and flexible sheet? It looks like treated cardboard.

What's behind that thin material? If that sheet is removed is the engine, DCT, and transfer case exposed?
It is thick sheet rubber… The Honda rear panel is the way to go if you want noise reduction. It’s like a truck cab.
What kind of cardboard did you end up going with?
 
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I don't know yet. After many message exchanges I was finally able to talk the service manager at my selling dealer into doing this job. I delivered a large roll of 3/8" thick reclaimed rubber sheet to him them ordered a 20sf of Dynamat from Summitt Racing drop shipped to him. He was reluctant to use the rubber sheet because he is going to remove the back wall panel and attach the insulation then reinstall it between frame and panel.

The young woman service writer just emailed an update. She said the "panel" the SM ordered has arrived and they'll photograph the cab insulation process as they do it. I don't know what panel she is talking about.

I'm sure my bill will be significant and hope it will be effective. I'll post them when I get them.
 
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I don't know yet. After many message exchanges I was finally able to talk the service manager at my selling dealer into doing this job. I delivered a large roll of 3/8" thick reclaimed rubber sheet to him them ordered a 20sf of Dynamat from Summitt Racing drop shipped to him. He was reluctant to use the rubber sheet because he is going to remove the back wall panel and attach the insulation then reinstall it between frame and panel.

The young woman service writer just emailed an update. She said the "panel" the SM ordered has arrived and they'll photograph the cab insulation process as they do it. I don't know what panel she is talking about.

I'm sure my bill will be significant and hope it will be effective. I'll post them when I get them.
If anything the sheet rubber would be a good backing to support another layer of insulation if needed.
Here is before/after behind the rubber sheet

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@HBarlow why are you having the dealer install this and not doing it yourself?
Removing the seatback is 5 10mm headed bolts. Removing the lower is seconds, the factory underseat rubber is some more push pins.

If you get comfortable removing the seatback, checking/replacing the air filter is an easy process. Trying to do it with the seat back in place is a nightmare.
 
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@HBarlow why are you having the dealer install this and not doing it yourself?
Removing the seatback is 5 10mm headed bolts. Removing the lower is seconds, the factory underseat rubber is some more push pins.

If you get comfortable removing the seatback, checking/replacing the air filter is an easy process. Trying to do it with the seat back in place is a nightmare.
I understand what you're saying but I'm too old now and my close vision is poor. I'll be 80 in July.

Until just a few years ago I took pride in doing everything around the house and cars myself. Now I'm proud to get up every morning. Getting old is tough.
 
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I understand what you're saying but I'm too old now and my close vision is poor. I'll be 80 in July.

Until just a few years ago I took pride in doing everything around the house and cars myself. Now I'm proud to get up every morning. Getting old is tough.
I completely understand and respect the being older.
We don't typically attract much of a 65+ crowd on the forum.
I apologize if I came across rude.
 
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I completely understand and respect the being older.
We don't typically attract much of a 65+ crowd on the forum.
I apologize if I came across rude.
No apology indicated. You weren't rude at all. You simply assumed I was in the typical age group and offered helpful advice.

I don't mind being old. I'm grateful to be alive. I never expected to be as old as I am.
 
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Thanks for the photos. Now I know the answer to the mystery.

I'd like to see how you are planning to insulate your
No apology indicated. You weren't rude at all. You simply assumed I was in the typical age group and offered helpful advice.

I don't mind being old. I'm grateful to be alive. I never expected to be as old as I am.
That’s awesome. Hope I’m still able to get out a enjoy these machines when I’m your age…I just hit 50 myself.
 
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My buggy is back from the dealer now and I took several photos that show the interior insulation.

The dealership removed the back wall of the cab and the "x" frame and installed Dynamat insulation from above the bottom of the rear window and most of the way down behind the seat back. He also installed Dynamat on the seat back to compensate for the area of the cab back wall that he could not add insulatatuib to.

I had already installed a substitute for Dynamat on the underside of the roof, on the floor under the Honda floor mat, around the seat base, and on the underside of the seat bottom.

I could brag and bs everyone that my cab is now as quiet as a new Mercedes-Benz but I would be lying. There is definitely significant improvement now but it's still noisier than I had hoped. Is the effort worth the cost and trouble? I think so but it's not a dramatic improvement. I can drive it without my ear muffs now but still prefer using the muffs.

The Honda SxS's are simply noisy as hell! They were not designed and built to be air-tight in cold weather or quiet and smooth.

Your results may vary.

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I couldn't find these photos earlier. here they are now. The deelership service manager emailed me these photos of the work they did on the back walll of the cab.

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