P1000 RECALL - ALL Honda Pioneer 1000's due to Fire and Burn Hazards, Nov 8th 2018

[Montecresto]

We discussed it on here long before I received the recall, not sure if it was the same for everyone else. So when we are discussing the issue of legal responsibility on behalf of the owner I would have to say if an owner was made aware of the potential hazard and chose to ignore it then you would be correct! But if no notice was given or a vehicle was purchased after a recall was issued, one could assume that the issue would have been resolved or the vehicle should not have been sold placing responsibility on the dealership. I know that although I did not bring mine in I immediately checked mine to ensure there was no danger.

Agreed. I was mainly speaking for myself and wondering aloud how many others did similar, shrugged it off somewhat thinking the next time we take it in we’ll have Honda address that issue as well. Again I can’t remember with certainty but it seems like my notice instructed me to stop using the machine immediately and take it to the dealer as soon as possible. And I say that with the full understanding that that may not at all be what transpired with JJ.

Seems like the dealer should have already performed that service bulletin on the unit he bought as recent as that was.

It’s just going to make me think twice if I ever receive another such bulletin from Honda.

 

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[JJoiner38]

We have quite a few Floridians here, who is the dealer your dealing with? I see your in Tampa theres a few users on the forum FloridaCracker, KnuckleDeep, ShadowAero, Dribblez we go out riding with the service Manager at Love Motorsports in Crystal River I wonder if another dealer can help you if you bought it and it burnt down the same weekend?

Love is where I bought my 2016 1000-5

I bought it from Tampa bay Powersports. As I mentioned before I bought this 2 weeks ago. I had no idea of any recall until this happened and I started googling it. The dealer has their palms turned up. It’s really a s***ty situation and I’m pretty sure I’m going to have have a long fight in court to be made whole. Between Honda and the dealer neither is willing to step up. If anybody else has had this issue I would like to get in touch with you

 

[Smitty335]

Agreed. I was mainly speaking for myself and wondering aloud how many others did similar, shrugged it off somewhat thinking the next time we take it in we’ll have Honda address that issue as well. Again I can’t remember with certainty but it seems like my notice instructed me to stop using the machine immediately and take it to the dealer as soon as possible. And I say that with the full understanding that that may not at all be what transpired with JJ.

Seems like the dealer should have already performed that service bulletin on the unit he bought as recent as that was.

It’s just going to make me think twice if I ever receive another such bulletin from Honda.

I checked mine my self, if you can replace the air filter, checking the clamps is a breeze. Ive pulled carbs off dirt bikes many time and re installed with the same system, difference they weren't buried and you could see it at a glance. It's pretty crazy that Honda let this slip through.

 

[CumminsPusher]

I bought it from Tampa bay Powersports. As I mentioned before I bought this 2 weeks ago. I had no idea of any recall until this happened and I started googling it. The dealer has their palms turned up. It’s really a s***ty situation and I’m pretty sure I’m going to have have a long fight in court to be made whole. Between Honda and the dealer neither is willing to step up. If anybody else has had this issue I would like to get in touch with you

Hey just wanted to send my condolences out to you. Loosing a machine so unexpectedly really sucks. Loosing it to fire and not being able to do anything would be heartbreaking. Obviously there’s variables on fault but no one wants to lay claim to that, tough situation. Again very sorry

 

[Montecresto]

I checked mine my self, if you can replace the air filter, checking the clamps is a breeze. Ive pulled carbs off dirt bikes many time and re installed with the same system, difference they weren't buried and you could see it at a glance. It's pretty crazy that Honda let this slip through.

Oh I know dude, if you can turn the key you can check your own. The point I was making is that if we receive a recall that says stop using the machine until it’s fixed, probably a good idea based upon JJ’s ordeal and others really. Anyway I’m on my way to my New Mexico property this weekend and you can bet your ass I’ll be checking the TB on my P1K-5 when I get there to be sure that it’s proper.

 

[RedFred1]

Can you get insurance on these things? Fire, theft, damage, etc? Never tried... Homeowners cover it? Hmmm...

FredD

 

[Neohio]

Can you get insurance on these things? Fire, theft, damage, etc? Never tried... Homeowners cover it? Hmmm...

FredD

It may depend on your state and insurance carrier/agent.
My machine has street plates on it and full insurance. $100 deductibles, full comp, fire, theft, collision etc.
Hell, If I break down and can get it to a road, it will even be towed. I think it added right around $25 a month to my insurance. Totally worth it should anything happen.

 

[CumminsPusher]

Can you get insurance on these things? Fire, theft, damage, etc? Never tried... Homeowners cover it? Hmmm...

FredD

Yes and I’d sure suggest it. It’s usually pretty cheap

 

[Tommyp]

If this recall is just a loose clamp from tube to throttle body, how can this cause a fire? Aren’t these fuel injected engines? Should be no fuel there. Or is it a fuel line clamp?

 

[Little_g]

If this recall is just a loose clamp from tube to throttle body, how can this cause a fire? Aren’t these fuel injected engines? Should be no fuel there. Or is it a fuel line clamp?

I think they are saying it has a possibility of backfire and that’s what can cause it.

 

[Tommyp]

Like when it fouls the spark plugs and melts the muffler shield for no reason?

 

[HondaTech]

If this recall is just a loose clamp from tube to throttle body, how can this cause a fire? Aren’t these fuel injected engines? Should be no fuel there. Or is it a fuel line clamp?

The clamps in question are below the where fuel is injected, if the throttle bodies are loose and happen to come all the way out, I guess fuel could be sprayed on the exterior of the engine and end up on the exhaust causing a fire.

 

[1BadDart]

The clamps in question are below the where fuel is injected, if the throttle bodies are loose and happen to come all the way out, I guess fuel could be sprayed on the exterior of the engine and end up on the exhaust causing a fire.

You'd think if they were that loose it would run like crap if it ran at all.

 

[HondaTech]

You'd think if they were that loose it would run like crap if it ran at all.

If the clamps were just loose it wouldn't.

Even with the clamps removed, it takes a good bit of force to shove a throttle body or carburetor into a intake boot. The more carbs or throttle bodies your trying to seat at once makes it harder.

For instance, I tore apart a friends dirtbike recently for a refreshing to find it was missing the intake boot to carb clamp, and I know we've never had it apart. So he's rode it for almost 3 years like that and it never missed a beat. This is a little different story on the P1k, since its on the engine side of the throttle body and not the intake side.

The recall is not only checking the tightness of the clamps, but to make sure the throttle bodies are seated all the way in. I'm guessing if they are sticking up far enough, a running issue could show up. I think this could be where the fires are stemming from, the throttle bodies actually coming out and leaking fuel onto a hot exhaust. But, i'm by no means an expert.

You would think any running issue would have been caught before being shipped, but I've seen some units come in with some obvious red flags. Things that should've been caught in the testing procedure before being taken off the line, but they somehow made it to me or in some cases to the customer.

 

[SuperDutyJohn]

I lost mine over the weekend. Second ride. Didn’t make it through a full tank of gas and it caught fire while I was riding. If there’s any chance I could get in touch with you my email is [email protected] I’d really like to hear how it’s being handled for you. Honda told me to get bent.

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Was that at River Ranch?

 

[JB1000]

IS there any videos on how to check these yourselves. I am so tired of taking mine in for recalls. Thanks John

 

[CumminsPusher]

IS there any videos on how to check these yourselves. I am so tired of taking mine in for recalls. Thanks John

Not that I’m aware of. Would be nice if someone that’s checking would video it because it’s pretty simple.

 

[JJoiner38]

Was that at River Ranch?

Yes it was at river ranch

 

[THEOLDMAN]

It may depend on your state and insurance carrier/agent.
My machine has street plates on it and full insurance. $100 deductibles, full comp, fire, theft, collision etc.
Hell, If I break down and can get it to a road, it will even be towed. I think it added right around $25 a month to my insurance. Totally worth it should anything happen.

Got it on mine as well