Texas Tough Talon X to R long travel kit ?

SLOWPOKE693

SLOWPOKE693

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Greaseable johny joints last 50 times longer, and are rebuildable, to me coming as from jeep world, heims are a great way to cheap out

Johnny joints were made for the Jeep crowd who wanted a flexy suspension but not the vibrations involved with ultimate strength heim joints and that's all they are. Nothing magical and mostly made for the mall crawler crowd. Nobody in offroad racing including the rock crawler crowd is using Johnny Joints over high quality heims for the simple fact that they can't take repetitive impact at speed without killing the urethane inserts. Buy some FK XML Teflon lined heims and get back to me on the noise thing. They ain't cheap, but quality never is. I run and have ran those for years on race cars, offroad vehicles and now my SxS and I've yet to hear one squeek that isn't worn out from being in use for way longer than it should have been or abused in some sort of severe impact event like a crash. Bushings/joints are wear items and should be treated as such and replaced/rebuilt on a schedule. There is no magical heim or bushing sombody makes that is wear proof like some of you want to think. Race teams in offroad motorsports do what they call a "race prep" to the vehicle before every race where they strip it down completely to check everything and when they put it back together they replace every heim and bushing there is to replace in the suspension if they are still good or not.
 
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Took the X to Wildcat today along with Julie, my Son and Daughter in Law who were in the '23 LV. We went at it pretty hard. My fears regarding how it would corner were mostly dispelled. You have to be up on the wheel, but it had great manners when cornering at moderate to quick speed. Hard acceleration whether on the flat or up hill is sketchy at best. It tended to wheel spin and eventually step sideways on numerous occasions, especially up hill. It rides rougher than a R. I ran it at a 2 foot water break and my son said the rear tires were 4 foot off the ground when I landed. Didn't expect that. It seems much more maneuverable through or around tight obstacles. We were running 93NE and 50% VP fuel and it seemed to continue running better as the day progressed, guessing the tune was learning, and shifts were perfect. I plan on ringing George at Double E to discuss his thoughts regarding traction and rear of the machine wanting to overrun the front over jumps. Julie didn't have her belts completely sung, and she went forward a bit and her sunglasses slammed into the inside of the windscreen. I ran the clickers in soft and medium settings, preferring the middle click



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Took the X to Wildcat today along with Julie, my Son and Daughter in Law who were in the '23 LV. We went at it pretty hard. My fears regarding how it would corner were mostly dispelled. You have to be up on the wheel, but it had great manners when cornering at moderate to quick speed. Hard acceleration whether on the flat or up hill is sketchy at best. It tended to wheel spin and eventually step sideways on numerous occasions, especially up hill. It rides rougher than a R. I ran it at a 2 foot water break and my son said the rear tires were 4 foot off the ground when I landed. Didn't expect that. It seems much more maneuverable through or around tight obstacles. We were running 93NE and 50% VP fuel and it seemed to continue running better as the day progressed, guessing the tune was learning, and shifts were perfect. I plan on ringing George at Double E to discuss his thoughts regarding traction and rear of the machine wanting to overrun the front over jumps. Julie didn't have her belts completely sung, and she went forward a bit and her sunglasses slammed into the inside of the windscreen. I ran the clickers in soft and medium settings, preferring the middle click



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All Talons buck forward on jumps stock, I think shock therapy were the ones who proposed it was due to the short trailing arms and there pivot point placement. The YXZ does a similar thing.

It's fixable with shocks like Slowpoke said.
 
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Scrappapotamus

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Same guy who did the Green Talon
 
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A buddy of mine I ride with did this swap and likes it a lot. He runs 35s and it has a great stance for trial riding! It really impressed me the last time we were at Windrock. If I had an X still I would heavily consider this route.
 
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A buddy of mine I ride with did this swap and likes it a lot. He runs 35s and it has a great stance for trial riding! It really impressed me the last time we were at Windrock. If I had an X still I would heavily consider this route.
We ride Windrock 90% of the time, obviously why I was looking at this kit. I spoke with a guy locally (face to face) who has the TTC kit and he said he keeps a can of WD40 with him at all times...
I have just decided to go forward front arms with OE bushings and call it a day.
 

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