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Talon Trailering the Talon loaded backwards

Discussion in 'General Talon 1000 Discussion' started by cummins14, Aug 27, 2019.

  1. cummins14

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    I've searched the forum and haven't found a Talon specific recommendation regarding trailering the machine when loaded backwards on a trailer. I have to load my machine backwards to get my tongue weight correct and keep the trailer from swaying. I noticed on my first trip with the Talon that the rear leading edge of the factory plastic roof panel was really vibrating or flexing up and down from the wind. I took all back roads and stayed under 60mph as 65+ really made it seem like it would fly off. Anyone else experience this or know of a way to alleviate the problem other than removing the roof? Thanks
     
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  2. CumminsPusher

    CumminsPusher The woods made me do it,yet again!
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    I've towed mine both ways without any major problems. The one thing that did happen while towing it backwards is the cover for the fuses thats between the seats popped off and flew down the road. So just watch out for that so you don't lose it.
     
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    I have to ask what kind of trailer do you have that you have to load it backwards? Is the Axel in the middle of the trailer. Most trailers have a Axel behind center for the reason of increasing weight on the tounge.. Can you put a sorage box on the front of your trailer on the tounge? Considering the design of the roof, being higher in the back, pulling backwards at highway speeds could damage the roof. You can find good used trailers, for less than $1000. Then sell your old one, then it doesn't hurt so bad. I don't know your situation, so don't take it personal. Just trying to help.
     
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    That's the reason Honda supposedly put those holes in the roof to allow it be towed backwards.
     
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    The one I tow backwards has an aftermarket cage and roof. I would be no help.
     
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    6 screws and put roof in pickup (assuming have cover on pickup).
     
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    I actually tow both on a 8.5x20 tandem axle open trailer. I also use my 6x12 open if I am only hauling one Talon. Both trailers have awful sway if I tow with them loaded forward as the weight of the engine etc is at the rear of the utv and my tongue weight becomes nonexistent. When a unit is pulled on forward on the single axle trailer, it would sway wildly above 50mph. Once the vehicle is turned around backwards, you could drive at 75mph with straight line tracking and zero sway. Same situation on the tandem axle unless loaded in reverse.
     
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    I thought that I have read that somewhere else, but wasn't sure. Thanks
     
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    I tried that first and it did help, but the sway was still there although at a little higher speed.
     
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    That explains it. TWO TALON'S. Nice. Two 10ft long Talons on a20ft trailer leaves few options. One thing that might help, hard to judge from the pic. It looks like possibly the front of the trailer is higher than the back. If that's true try a different ball mount to lower the hitch on the trailer so the trailer is level, or slightly lower on the front , this will shift the weight forward on the truck, and help with sway. Low tire pressure on tow vehicle, and trailer can also cause swaying. I have a 6.5x10 utility/landscape trailer tows 75 no sway.
     
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    I too had to turn the first one backwards to stop trailer sway.
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    try it reversed. front one forward back one backwards. all your doing is shifting weight a different way. also if your trailer is dual axle and nosed down. this will also cause the trailer to sway as your fighting the front wheels instead of having it slightly elevated so it rides more on the back wheels.

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    Thanks everyone. I may swap to aluminum roofs which I'm sure would solve the issue. I have also been pondering an 8.5x24 enclosed trailer, but obviously, with the two toys, I have enough in payments! LOL
     
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    I have the same concern since I’m hoping to use the little 6’x10’ single axle Alumaweld trailer I bought for my RZR 900 Trail to tow the new Talon. Even with the little RZR on the trailer forwards there’s only maybe 30lbs of tongue weight! Surprisingly it still tows very true with the RZR, but I’m sure it will be a different story with the longer and heavier Talon loaded. Especially since the Talon will take every inch of the trailer...and maybe a little more, requiring me to modify the ramp positioning a little when in the up position. Will find out this weekend when it gets delivered!

    I did read in Honda’s advertising somewhere that the slotted roof was to allow for rearward towing, but we’ll see. I was thinking about fabing up some sort of strap on wind deflector that can be taken on and off when towing, and would deflect the wind up and over the roof instead of under the roof and through the cab!
     
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    Just made a post showing my X loaded backwards on my 6’x10’ trailer. Towed it 50 miles at about 65 mph in a wind storm and it seemed to be just fine. Just make sure the doors are latched and the nets (if installed ) buckled. I’d also suggest removing the key, especially if you have any kind of key ring that will catch wind.
     
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    Finally sold my open trailer and picked up this 8.5x24 enclosed unit, so I will have to experiment with the best loading of the Talons for the balance. I definitely have a bit of tongue weight now and even without weight distributing hitch bars, I don't feel any sway up to 70mph empty. The truck's rear end only dropped 1.25" with the trailer attached which has an empty weight of 3,600lbs. Not sure of the tongue weight unloaded, but I think a little more will actually help the stability and counteract future sway. I am estimating that I will be approaching 7,000lbs loaded as far as the trailer. I was worried that the 1/2 ton truck would be overworked with this set up, but the 6.2v8 and the LT tires pumped up to 60lbs psi diminished my worries. The 9mpg fuel consumption is not very good, but not enough that I will trade a nearly new truck and take a loss to upgrade to a 3/4 ton diesel at this point. I may very well change my mind once I begin towing with the loaded trailer, but I am hoping that will not be the case.
     

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