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What size winch for the Big Red MUV?

Discussion in 'Big Red Accessories and Modifications' started by atvsnowman, Mar 28, 2013.

  1. atvsnowman

    atvsnowman New Member

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    Subject says it all.
    I don't get stuck often, I'm not a mad mudder like some. Mostly need it to run my winch and pull others out. I have only been stuck once in the Red and that was in the snow.

    Reason I am asking is because WARN has put out 2 new line of winches called the PROVANTAGE and the VANTAGE. Both are upgrades from the RT and XT lines. The ProVantage line has a full metal case and gears. While the Vantage only says metal gears. Both offering wire rope and synthetic rope options.

    The ProVantage is labeled "King of the Hill" by warn. It is the top of the line ATV/SXS winches. They are available between 2,500-4,500 lbs. They are built with premium parts and offer market-leading performance. Price range of $350-$650

    While the Vantage is labeled "A Workhorse with Attitude". It comes in ranges between 2,000-4,000 lbs. Offering best-in-class performance at an affordable price. Price range of $200-$400

    Any feedback would be great.
    Thanks.
     

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  2. Hondasxs

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    Welcome to the Honda SxS Forum and thanks for your post.

    So.. With the 3500lb winch... do you think that 1806 lbs of pull is enough to pull that big rig out of a thick mud pit? If not you need to go with the 4500 winch.

    A lot of people do no pay attention to the "pull by layer" factor. For each layer of rope/cable the pull strength weakens. Only when you wind the winch all the way out do you get the full pull. With only 5 ft of winch line out you can only pull at 2731 lbs with the 4500lb winch.
    Here is the "pull by layer" factor on the ProV. 4500 warn.
    Layer 1 - 4500 lbs
    Layer 2 - 3780 lbs
    Layer 3 - 3175 lbs
    Layer 4 - 2731 lbs

    Ultimately it is up to you and what you are willing to put into it.
    Me. I'd pick the 3500 Vantage with synthetic rope and buy a good snatch block or 2. Remember, You can always double your pulling power with each snatch by making a pulley system.
    Thanks.
     
  3. Rinconman

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    The BR is huge.... you better get 2 of th 4500's. lol.
     
  4. Hondasxs

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    @Fordman - U used it yet? Wondering how it pulled. I'm sure a 4k winch will work just fine.
     
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    Only used once so far & it did a great job , I was pleased
     
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    I have the Aux battery & 4500 RT winch from dealer. I've used a lot. Needless to say, I've broken 2-metal winch ropes. I bought a 7K lbs. synthetic rope($80 from Amazon). I usually take a tow strap with me so I don't have to wrap rope around fixed pulling object, to prevent damage to rope. So far I've never been in a situation where the winch was under power...however, I have seen where if the machine isn't running, and your just in ACC Mode....the winch doesn't have enough power to do much. It has to be running off the alternator...that's my experience anyhow.
     
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    I would go with a 4500lbs - better to have too much than not enough.
    Also check out the Superwinch line - the Terra series is around $225 and has a lifetime guarantee. Had several warns and the Superwinch is easily equal in quality but the price is much better.
     

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