P500 2015 Pioneer 500 pops out of gear

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My gears shift perfectly up and down. It is a good solid shift every time. As long as I have any torque at all (positive or negative), it will stay in gear. But when you slow to the point that there is no torque, it pops out of gear. This happens in all gears. Even reverse. It will pop right back in gear as soon as i give it gas/torque again. I notice it the worst when in negative RPMs going down a hill. If I keep it torqued, no problem. Slow down to a roll, and it pops out of gear until I give it gas again. I adjusted the clutch a little both ways to see if it would help. No change.
 
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The P5 has a centrifugal clutch, it will "disengage" when the engine RPMs drop, this is what allows the engine to stay running when you come to a stop while in gear....could this be what you're feeling?

As the engine RPMs increase the "shoe"s on #16 (connected to the engine crankshaft) move outward to grab the drum #15 (connected to the transmission)

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My gears shift perfectly up and down. It is a good solid shift every time. As long as I have any torque at all (positive or negative), it will stay in gear. But when you slow to the point that there is no torque, it pops out of gear. This happens in all gears. Even reverse. It will pop right back in gear as soon as i give it gas/torque again. I notice it the worst when in negative RPMs going down a hill. If I keep it torqued, no problem. Slow down to a roll, and it pops out of gear until I give it gas again. I adjusted the clutch a little both ways to see if it would help. No change.
Does it literally clunk and pop out of gear, or just freewheel like a Polaris that drops to idle? Could be a bad one way clutch bearing, if that's the case.
 
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Does it literally clunk and pop out of gear, or just freewheel like a Polaris that drops to idle? Could be a bad one way clutch bearing, if that's the case.
It just free wheels and stays that way until I give it gas. Very dangerous going down a hill. I have to use just the brakes to slow down until I give it gas again. There is no actual pop in or out. It seems to smoothly just start free wheeling when there is no positive or negative torque.
 
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It just free wheels and stays that way until I give it gas. Very dangerous going down a hill. I have to use just the brakes to slow down until I give it gas again. There is no actual pop in or out. It seems to smoothly just start free wheeling when there is no positive or negative torque.
If that's the case then you need to inspect/replace #30, overunning clutch (one way bearing) that DG Rider suggested, it provides the engine braking.
 
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It just free wheels and stays that way until I give it gas. Very dangerous going down a hill. I have to use just the brakes to slow down until I give it gas again. There is no actual pop in or out. It seems to smoothly just start free wheeling when there is no positive or negative torque. If you let it free wheel for more than a few seconds, you can begin to hear the a slight gear grind like they are close but not engaged. It is worse in second or higher gears going down hill.
 

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