P1000 Air/Sound tight hard cabs?

[Kansas]

I'm looking at trading a 2015 Ranger 570 Full Size w/EPS, with a good hard cab. I'm leaning towards getting a Pioneer 1000-3, but haven't ruled out the 700-4 yet. How air and dust tight are the hard cabs on these models? Does noise get to be a serious problem with the hard cab, pretty bad on the Ranger! Should I wait for the 2017 1000-3 to come out to pull the trigger?

 

[Admin]

 

[sharp]

I'm looking at trading a 2015 Ranger 570 Full Size w/EPS, with a good hard cab. I'm leaning towards getting a Pioneer 1000-3, but haven't ruled out the 700-4 yet. How air and dust tight are the hard cabs on these models? Does noise get to be a serious problem with the hard cab, pretty bad on the Ranger! Should I wait for the 2017 1000-3 to come out to pull the trigger?

I've had a ranger, you should get rid of it and get a honda 1000. You won't believe the difference coming from a 570 polaris to a Honda 1000

 

[Crow_Hunter]

If your main focus is the cab, you shouldn't get the Pioneer.

The Pioneer has LOTS of features that set it above the Ranger but unfortunately the cab is NOT one of them.

Honda dropped the ball big time on their cab design and they really need to do some serious improvement on it. Polaris is leaps and bounds ahead of them in that department. That is just on the dust control, water penetration and durability and says nothing about the heat under the seat.

If you are really, really wanting a nice cab design, look at the Can-Am Defender series. Nice cab, better quality of other stuff than Polaris.

But you should go and check out both for yourself. Neither is perfect but the Honda cab system/door system is pretty pitiful. Just go look at one... If you search here you will read lots of complaints about them.

 

[Kansas]

If your main focus is the cab, you shouldn't get the Pioneer.

The Pioneer has LOTS of features that set it above the Ranger but unfortunately the cab is NOT one of them.

Honda dropped the ball big time on their cab design and they really need to do some serious improvement on it. Polaris is leaps and bounds ahead of them in that department. That is just on the dust control, water penetration and durability and says nothing about the heat under the seat.

If you are really, really wanting a nice cab design, look at the Can-Am Defender series. Nice cab, better quality of other stuff than Polaris.

But you should go and check out both for yourself. Neither is perfect but the Honda cab system/door system is pretty pitiful. Just go look at one... If you search here you will read lots of complaints about them.

Reliability is my main concern. Ranger has not done that. A good cab would be nice though. I farm and ranch, and do a lot in the bitter cold winter. I'm wondering if the 2017 1000 will be a great deal quieter and more comfortable with the new seat. I do plan to go to a dealer with a cab installed this weekend. My closest dealer doesn't put any cabs on until you order one. That's not real helpful.

 

[Crow_Hunter]

Honda will be leaps and bounds better than the Poolaris on the reliability and quality of parts standpoint but their cab system seems to be an afterthought that really wasn't 100% thought out. Honda hasn't mentioned anything about any improvements in their cab system for the 2017. Their windshield is pretty good. Their doors are what I think are pitiful and considering how much hot air blows through the shifter opening and how hot the unit gets with just a hard top, I can imagine their cab system fulling enclosed would be a nightmare. Especially for what they are asking for it price wise.

Polaris has had more time to work out their kinks with their cab (and have done a good job) but still insist on building with the cheapest parts and lowest attention to quality.

Can Am did their homework on the Defender and their cab system is just as good as the Ranger but I don't think they have the same level of quality as the Pioneer does, except for the cab.

 

[JTW]

Reliability is my main concern. Ranger has not done that. A good cab would be nice though. I farm and ranch, and do a lot in the bitter cold winter. I'm wondering if the 2017 1000 will be a great deal quieter and more comfortable with the new seat. I do plan to go to a dealer with a cab installed this weekend. My closest dealer doesn't put any cabs on until you order one. That's not real helpful.

Would you not be better off with a Jeep?

 

[Kansas]

Had the chance to get to a Honda dealer with 1000-3 with cab on yesterday. I really like the machine itself although I was unable to drive it due to the weather. I think that pretty well ruled out the cab anyway on a 1000-3. $6000 is too much for something that doesn't seal any better than that. So debating between getting the 1000-3 with only hard top and glass windshield, that doesn't open apparently, that was a disappointment. Afraid to get the poly windshield, afraid it will scratch easily and get spray on it and discolor it making it impossible to see out of. Option 2, going to look at a Yamaha Viking with full hard cab on this week, and see what my thoughts of those are. I'm concerned about the noise level inside those with a cab on, anyone with experience on that? Option 3, keep putting $ and parts into my Ranger, and fear the next breakdown all the time.

 

[Kansas]

Would you not be better off with a Jeep?

A jeep is to big and bulky to do things I need it to do.

 

[moparornocar]

Honda will be leaps and bounds better than the Poolaris on the reliability and quality of parts standpoint but their cab system seems to be an afterthought that really wasn't 100% thought out. Honda hasn't mentioned anything about any improvements in their cab system for the 2017. Their windshield is pretty good. Their doors are what I think are pitiful and considering how much hot air blows through the shifter opening and how hot the unit gets with just a hard top, I can imagine their cab system fulling enclosed would be a nightmare. Especially for what they are asking for it price wise.

Polaris has had more time to work out their kinks with their cab (and have done a good job) but still insist on building with the cheapest parts and lowest attention to quality.

Can Am did their homework on the Defender and their cab system is just as good as the Ranger but I don't think they have the same level of quality as the Pioneer does, except for the cab.

In this case I have to agree with CH Hondas cab system is terrible, but there are some aftermarket options out there that are much much better. I'll have to try and find a link for you. No matter the brand the cab is gonna be expensive though.

 

[GlockMeister]

P1000 - Alumilite Armor Introduces Pioneer 1000 aluminum enclosure with full suicide doors
I watched and install video on YouTube looks pretty legit

 

[moparornocar]

P1000 - Alumilite Armor Introduces Pioneer 1000 aluminum enclosure with full suicide doors
I watched and install video on YouTube looks pretty legit

Yep. This one. Man that is sweet. Almost want to buy a factory roll cage so I can install this

 

[Kansas]

P1000 - Alumilite Armor Introduces Pioneer 1000 aluminum enclosure with full suicide doors
I watched and install video on YouTube looks pretty legit

That certainty looks Like a pretty decent cab! Only thing missing is roll down windows and windshield that lifts all the way up on hydraulic shocks. Thanks for the link.

 

[JTW]

That certainty looks Like a pretty decent cab! Only thing missing is roll down windows and windshield that lifts all the way up on hydraulic shocks. Thanks for the link.

They don't make a windshield like that in glass for the Honda. Only poly.
But FYI.. other than the roof. I wouldn't buy Honda accessories compared to some of the aftermarket stuff out there. SuperATV flip windshield is the route I'm going. I can't speak for the cab. The Viking wouldn't bother me but if I didn't buy a Honda it would only be a Yamaha.

 

[JTW]

A jeep is to big and bulky to do things I need it to do.

Fair enough.. but there's not a whole lot of difference anymore.

 

[Kansas]

They don't make a windshield like that in glass for the Honda. Only poly.
But FYI.. other than the roof. I wouldn't buy Honda accessories compared to some of the aftermarket stuff out there. SuperATV flip windshield is the route I'm going. I can't speak for the cab. The Viking wouldn't bother me but if I didn't buy a Honda it would only be a Yamaha.

Leaning towards the Viking now, but only because I need a cab. I'm surprised DFK doesn't offer a cab for the Pioneer 1000-3. About the time I get a Viking Honda will get a good hard cab I suppose.

 

[JTW]

Leaning towards the Viking now, but only because I need a cab. I'm surprised DFK doesn't offer a cab for the Pioneer 1000-3. About the time I get a Viking Honda will get a good hard cab I suppose.

Yep.. it's just a matter of time, they're waaaaay too popular not to. The Viking is a good choice too... if the wolverine had seats like the Honda 1000-5, I would have had a hard time deciding. I'm very pleased with the Honda so far but just haven't been able to get enough seat time to really pick things apart

 

[Crow_Hunter]

Leaning towards the Viking now, but only because I need a cab. I'm surprised DFK doesn't offer a cab for the Pioneer 1000-3. About the time I get a Viking Honda will get a good hard cab I suppose.

Make sure you try the Viking out with the cab. I don't have first hand knowledge but from what I understand they are pretty loud and I assume that the cab would exacerbate that noise level.

Also, the Viking does not have a turf mode/open rear diff option like the Pioneer/Ranger/Defender have if that is something that you want or need.

That being said, I researched the Viking fairly extensively and after some initial teething issues after release it is a very reliable machine. It uses an engine that Yamaha has been using successfully for many years.

 

[amc019]

A company called Armor Tech makes a badass cab kit for the P1000 3 seater I saw. Could be used with a 5 seat too as well probably. Not on their website yet, but saw one on the Facebook group and its probably cheaper than the Honda kit. They are a well known company around here for duck hunting rigs.

 

[Kansas]

Make sure you try the Viking out with the cab. I don't have first hand knowledge but from what I understand they are pretty loud and I assume that the cab would exacerbate that noise level.

Also, the Viking does not have a turf mode/open rear diff option like the Pioneer/Ranger/Defender have if that is something that you want or need.

That being said, I researched the Viking fairly extensively and after some initial teething issues after release it is a very reliable machine. It uses an engine that Yamaha has been using successfully for many years.

Drove a Viking with and without cab yesterday. Cab definitely adds sound but they have made sound improvements on the 16' and 17' models. Also my dealer adds their own sound kit they've created. Haven't pulled the trigger on anything yet, but the Viking did not scare me away. Was not able to drive a Pioneer 1000-3 with a cab so don't know how they'd compare.

 

[JLH]

Drove a Viking with and without cab yesterday. Cab definitely adds sound but they have made sound improvements on the 16' and 17' models. Also my dealer adds their own sound kit they've created. Haven't pulled the trigger on anything yet, but the Viking did not scare me away. Was not able to drive a Pioneer 1000-3 with a cab so don't know how they'd compare.

If if your leaning towards a Viking, don't drive the Pioneer. My son-in-law has a 15 Viking 3 seat and I used his around the farm quite a bit before I decided to get my own. After driving the 1000-3 deluxe, there isn't a comparison. His has a hard top, fold down windsheild and soft rear panel, mine has a split windsheild, hard top and hard rear panel. I didn't think power steering would make that big of a difference and I didn't think for my usage, the motor size would be a big deal as well. Man was I wrong.
I liked that the Viking has a lot more leg room, but I seem to sit lower in the cab. One thing that I did not like was the springs in the Viking doors, it was a real PIA getting in and out a lot, as you do on the farm, I would have removed them if it were mine. I was also concerned about the belt drive on the Yamaha holding up to everything that happens on the farm. I see that some on this forum have had clutch issues but I'm good so far with nearly 400 miles of low speed driving.
Just my 2 cents.