P500 Any P500 clutch failures

[rocmar]

Just because every Polaris has a "Fire Hazard" recall doesn't mean every Honda has a clutch problem. The P500 & P700 have been bulletproof in that respect. As far as P1K, only 15% of the machines are having issues. The reason you see so many posts is misery loves company and those 15% owners have nothing else to do but b**** and moan about it while thier machine sits in a shop for warranty repairs. The other 85% are out riding having a good time not posting so much, some in fear of being labled, drunk on fan boy koolaid just because they aren't miserable like the glass half empty guys, that think posting about the same thing 200 times will some how make it better.

I wanna give ya more likes...

 

[Admin]

 

[trigger]

Just because every Polaris has a "Fire Hazard" recall doesn't mean every Honda has a clutch problem. The P500 & P700 have been bulletproof in that respect. As far as P1K, only 15% of the machines are having issues. The reason you see so many posts is misery loves company and those 15% owners have nothing else to do but b**** and moan about it while thier machine sits in a shop for warranty repairs. The other 85% are out riding having a good time not posting so much, some in fear of being labled, drunk on fan boy koolaid just because they aren't miserable like the glass half empty guys, that think posting about the same thing 200 times will some how make it better.

Glad to see the Ancient Guru tag back.

 

[Jnwit]

When traveling at speed, and I mash the brakes, I get terrible noise that sounds to me like the clutch is not releasing. The sound is a fast clanking, like 10 times a second. I don't have to mash the brakes actually to get this issue, any braking that is slightly aggressive this happens. I have trained myself to shift down as I approach stops rather than use the brakes. My recollection is this has been ongoing for years. I guess it could be rear shaft union at the axle. Any ideas folks? As I type, I guess it would be easy enough to drain rear axle housing to see if there is a bunch of metal in it.

 

[JACKAL]

When traveling at speed, and I mash the brakes, I get terrible noise that sounds to me like the clutch is not releasing. The sound is a fast clanking, like 10 times a second. I don't have to mash the brakes actually to get this issue, any braking that is slightly aggressive this happens. I have trained myself to shift down as I approach stops rather than use the brakes. My recollection is this has been ongoing for years. I guess it could be rear shaft union at the axle. Any ideas folks? As I type, I guess it would be easy enough to drain rear axle housing to see if there is a bunch of metal in it.

This thread is 6 years old on the last response before your post. That said Pioneer 500/520 have earned a bulletproof reputation.

The noise I believe you hear is due to the rear brake disc being on the output shaft past the transmission but prior to the rear differential. My guess is what you hear is a combination of the rear differential and suspension reaction the braking applied. I had a P500 for 5 years and recall many times the noise you described.

Still that doesn't mean something could be amiss. Check you brake pads on both front hubs and the rear, if they are worn down that can also cause the chatter.

What year is your machine and how many miles are on it, also what type of terrain do you ride in?

 

[Red500]

Look for a rock somewhere in you rear brake system.

 

[Jnwit]

My machine is 2018 model. I think I am still under 3000 miles. The noise has been around for a long time - years - shame on me for not getting serious about it. The rhythm of the chatter would indicate it is mechanical, like chain jumping on a sprocket or ring/pinion gears jumping/slipping past each other. It will be easy to see if the rear differential is chewing itself up. What is in the clutch system or transmission that could create such a noise? It's like the clutch is not free wheeling at vigorous deceleration.

 

[trigger]

My machine is 2018 model. I think I am still under 3000 miles. The noise has been around for a long time - years - shame on me for not getting serious about it. The rhythm of the chatter would indicate it is mechanical, like chain jumping on a sprocket or ring/pinion gears jumping/slipping past each other. It will be easy to see if the rear differential is chewing itself up. What is in the clutch system or transmission that could create such a noise? It's like the clutch is not free wheeling at vigorous deceleration.

It's the gears. They're square cut and this has been brought up several times in the past, mostly with new owners. You should hear it when engine braking going downhill as well.

 

[Jnwit]

is it normal? something to worry about? it sounds terrible.

 

[Jnwit]

Follow up ... During engine braking alone? - i don't hear anything then.
Only when I am pressing hard on the brake pedal.

 

[trigger]

Follow up ... During engine braking alone? - i don't hear anything then.
Only when I am pressing hard on the brake pedal.

Not the sound I'm referring to then.

 

[hondabob]

The noise is probably from the ring and pinion gear banging. It can occur on a loose downhill surface where the wheels slip then gain traction. On a smooth downhill surface, it won't happen. It is normal and there won't be any damage. It is annoying but not a problem.

 

[HondaTech]

Follow up ... During engine braking alone? - i don't hear anything then.
Only when I am pressing hard on the brake pedal.

Your slowing the driveshaft down faster than the engine/rear diff can compensate due to the brake being on the shaft instead of the wheels.