P500 Bought Another P500

[futzin]

Yes, I've seen that. Not what I have in mind.
The insert portion, maybe. But not another base unit added to a base, effectively.

 

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[Splorin]

The ‘push’ condition may be minimized if you go to 4 10s or 11s. My borrowed from my Big Bear 12” Mud Lites (on 2-5s, 60”) would just shove the front 10s around. Just thinkin…….

 

[futzin]

 

[futzin]

Gonna take it out today for mud hole testing; not fun but necessary.
In limited testing first time out it felt less planted, less capable in the mud holes.

Will help me to decide on HTRs again or to consider Evolutions. Weights will come into play.

 

[futzin]

Tire weights in the HTRs vs the Evolutions are a bit wonky. A lot more weight in the HTR 11s vs 9s as compared to the Evolutions. The Evos are heavier across the board.

Current:
HTR 27x9x12 25 lbs
HTR 27x11x12 31 lbs

Options:
HTR 28x9x14 26 lbs
HTR 28x11x14 34 lbs
Evo 28x9x14 29.8 lbs
Evo 28x11x14 32.3 lbs

Going with the HTRs means adding 1 lb of rubber to each front wheel, and 3 lbs to each rear.
Going with the Evos would be adding 4.8 lbs to each front wheel, and 1.3 lbs to each rear.
New 14" wheels weigh 16 lbs each. Current wheel weight is 14.5 lbs.

Anyone want to 'weigh' in on this? Or do you not care one ounce about it?

Most of the time I'm in 4WD on the trails.

 

[pappyo]

Anyone want to 'weigh' in on this? Or do you not care one ounce about it?

Most of the time I'm in 4WD on the trails.

DEPENDS
According to Science & Math
Heavier the load the more your Performance will Suffer.

Transplant P1000 Drive Train in P500/ P520 chassis to gain Back Power Loss??

 

[futzin]

DEPENDS
According to Science & Math
Heavier the load the more your Performance will Suffer.

Transplant P1000 Drive Train in P500/ P520 chassis to gain Back Power Loss??

@906UP 😁

 

[JenElio]

Tire weights in the HTRs vs the Evolutions are a bit wonky. A lot more weight in the HTR 11s vs 9s as compared to the Evolutions. The Evos are heavier across the board.

Current:
HTR 27x9x12 25 lbs
HTR 27x11x12 31 lbs

Options:
HTR 28x9x14 26 lbs
HTR 28x11x14 34 lbs
Evo 28x9x14 29.8 lbs
Evo 28x11x14 32.3 lbs

Going with the HTRs means adding 1 lb of rubber to each front wheel, and 3 lbs to each rear.
Going with the Evos would be adding 4.8 lbs to each front wheel, and 1.3 lbs to each rear.
New 14" wheels weigh 16 lbs each. Current wheel weight is 14.5 lbs.

Anyone want to 'weigh' in on this? Or do you not care one ounce about it?

Most of the time I'm in 4WD on the trails.

Unless you're adding a significant amount of weight and or racing it, I don't think it really matters 🤷‍♂️

Reminds me of when I used to street race "allegedly"........some guys would go crazy trying to remove a/c compressors and billet aluminum this and that, all to come around and see the 350# driver shoehorn his way in to the driver's seat 🙄🤦‍♂️😂😂😂


Anywheyz.......is an extra 20# going to really make a difference?......maybe, but it's probably the equivalent of leaving with a cooler full of trail pops and coming back empty.....🤷‍♂️

 

[Mudwisel]

Tire weights in the HTRs vs the Evolutions are a bit wonky. A lot more weight in the HTR 11s vs 9s as compared to the Evolutions. The Evos are heavier across the board.

Current:
HTR 27x9x12 25 lbs
HTR 27x11x12 31 lbs

Options:
HTR 28x9x14 26 lbs
HTR 28x11x14 34 lbs
Evo 28x9x14 29.8 lbs
Evo 28x11x14 32.3 lbs

Going with the HTRs means adding 1 lb of rubber to each front wheel, and 3 lbs to each rear.
Going with the Evos would be adding 4.8 lbs to each front wheel, and 1.3 lbs to each rear.
New 14" wheels weigh 16 lbs each. Current wheel weight is 14.5 lbs.

Anyone want to 'weigh' in on this? Or do you not care one ounce about it?

Most of the time I'm in 4WD on the trails.

are you not going to run the same size all the way around?

 

[Backwoods]

are you not going to run the same size all the way around?

That’s what I like as well.

 

[futzin]

9s and 11s will give me an even track

 

[futzin]

Unless you're adding a significant amount of weight and or racing it, I don't think it really matters 🤷‍♂️

Reminds me of when I used to street race "allegedly"........some guys would go crazy trying to remove a/c compressors and billet aluminum this and that, all to come around and see the 350# driver shoehorn his way in to the driver's seat 🙄🤦‍♂️😂😂😂


Anywheyz.......is an extra 20# going to really make a difference?......maybe, but it's probably the equivalent of leaving with a cooler full of trail pops and coming back empty.....🤷‍♂️

I would effectively be adding 6.5 lbs to each front, on a 475 cc machine currently running 27s, that was spec'd for 24s.
That doesn't sound like a good idea.

I have to turn the extra weight, not carry it.

 

[The Green Goat]

Not sure how much it weighs on your decision, but I wish I would have went with lighter tires. I like just about everything about the K9s except that they suck up any power the p5 has.

 

[Mudwisel]

I would effectively be adding 6.5 lbs to each front, on a 475 cc machine currently running 27s, that was spec'd for 24s.
That doesn't sound like a good idea.

I have to turn the extra weight, not carry it.

I understand. Are you buying all new wheels? If so why not add spacers to the back and run 10 inch tires all around. Not a right or wrong but that would be my preference. I did that on my p7 and will do it on 1000 also. Like I said nothing wrong either way . I like to have one size tire as it makes other things easy.

 

[Splorin]

Don’t rule out what might work for ya vs a couple pounds. The paralysis analysis thing…….

 

[futzin]

Don’t rule out what might work for ya vs a couple pounds. The paralysis analysis thing…….

A couple of pounds would be great! Adding 10 lbs to the front (Evo 9s + wheels) gives me pause.
I know the HTRs work very well, I have two sets of them. They are directional, but both sets are wearing evenly. Just kinda wanted to try something different, but the P5 has very little power to work with as @The Green Goat mentioned.

I understand. Are you buying all new wheels? If so why not add spacers to the back and run 10 inch tires all around. Not a right or wrong but that would be my preference. I did that on my p7 and will do it on 1000 also. Like I said nothing wrong either way . I like to have one size tire as it makes other things easy.

Yes, new wheels 5+2 offset 14s. All 10s in Evos would give me the same rear weight tires as current (+ spacer weight) but would be adding even more weight to the front. I like the idea of all 10s, I just don't see an option for it that I'm happy with. In 28" 14s, HTRs only come in 9.5 width, oddly. I suppose that's an option.

HTRs:
add 2 lbs to front, 6 to rear.

Evos:
add 9.6 to front, 2.6 to rear.

same size tires . . . wonky

Evo 28x10x14 all four:
add 12.2 to front, spacer weight to rear

 

[Mudwisel]

A couple of pounds would be great! Adding 10 lbs to the front (Evo 9s + wheels) gives me pause.
I know the HTRs work very well, I have two sets of them. They are directional, but both sets are wearing evenly. Just kinda wanted to try something different, but the P5 has very little power to work with as @The Green Goat mentioned.



Yes, new wheels 5+2 offset 14s. All 10s in Evos would give me the same rear weight tires as current (+ spacer weight) but would be adding even more weight to the front. I like the idea of all 10s, I just don't see an option for it that I'm happy with. In 28" 14s, HTRs only come in 9.5 width, oddly. I suppose that's an option.

HTRs:
add 2 lbs to front, 6 to rear.

Evos:
add 9.6 to front, 2.6 to rear.

same size tires . . . wonky

Evo 28x10x14 all four:
add 12.2 to front, spacer weight to rear

The 10s in the rear would be lighter than 11 but I get 10 in front would be heavier. It kinda balances out . I get tring to reduce rotating mass but to be honest if I was only adding less than 10 pounds total from all four wheels I wouldn't sweat it. I firmly believe the 500 is geared low enough to more than handle. In the end its your decision and only you have to be happy with it. Like I said not right or wrong

 

[futzin]

I decided on HTRs (again ). The combination of capability, weight and cost is hard to beat in an 8-ply radial.

28x9x14, 28x11x14. $619

Also ordered Crossroads 3D cup holders.

 

[Rayger143]

I decided on HTRs (again ). The combination of capability, weight and cost is hard to beat in an 8-ply radial.

28x9x14, 28x11x14. $619

Also ordered Crossroads 3D cup holders.

Well a guy can’t say that you never put any thought into your decision 😂. They’re gonna work great!

 

[Jason W]

I'm running heavy sedona ripsaws, I thinknthe added traction and toughness of tire put wiegh the marginal performance gain of a lighter tire,