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I created a thread for @COPS to discuss and educate people on his products and not detract from the original thread topic.

Feel free to interact with him/ her here: (If you dare)

COPS Locker for Talon

Pioneer and Talon are NOT interchangeable.
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Please continue to post in this thread about the TORQ Locker product for the Talon.
 
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Pioneer and Talon are NOT interchangeable.
 
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Wait.. I thought someone had one already developed late 2019.... I was told they did. And it would be a game changer or something.

All they really did was take the front chunk from the Pioneer1000 LE. Hack it up and add the electronic 4x4 clutch. looked good on paper.
 
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Looks like the triggersarus visited this thread.
 
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Delusion: "develeoped late 2019"
Reality: announced October 9, 2020 at 11:59 PM

Delusion: "Torq-Masters can deliver"
Reality: Torq-Masters did NOT deliver

Delusion: "hacked up a Pioneer diff and added the electric clutch"
Reality: used 95% OEM Talon parts based on a OEM Talon diff with 2 custom machined parts to achieve a selectable locking front diff. (Plus 2 cable brackets and a custom dash plate.)

TRIGGERED TRIGGERED TRIGGERED
 
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Wait.. I thought someone had one already developed late 2019.... I was told they did. And it would be a game changer or something.

All they really did was take the front chunk from the Pioneer1000 LE. Hack it up and add the electronic 4x4 clutch. looked good on paper.
That’s what I was thinking too… might have to get another bar napkin
 
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With all the infinite wisdom of hondasxs.com and all the absolute perfect knowledge from the endless experts who live here you'd think that at least one of you would know why a Talon locker won't work in a Pioneer diff.
 
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With all the infinite wisdom of hondasxs.com and all the absolute perfect knowledge from the endless experts who live here you'd think that at least one of you would know why a Talon locker won't work in a Pioneer diff.
Well ya..
Isnt that why yall took a pioneer 1000 le diff and put the talon clutch on it.

Don't need us to tell you that.
 
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Looking at it again.
It's the non LE meshed with the LE. Lots of common parts.

I do commend you for having the time and resources to figure it out.
 
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You clearly didn't think that through even the slightest bit. An LE Pioneer diff doesn't have a locker. You should have consulted one of the resident experts on what to say.

The Pioneer clutch bolts on at 1, 5 and 8 o'clock. The Talon clutch bolts on at 2, 4 and 10 o'clock. The Pioneer input shaft has small male splines. The Talon input shaft has huge female splines. The clutches are not interchangeable. Not even close.

Since y'all already know everything I didn't need to tell you any of that. I look at these every day all day, but the real experts are you guys. Real knowledge comes from being a keyboard warrior on internet forums. Only a fool would go out in the real world and try stuff for themself before opening their mouth for the whole world to see that they're ignorant and extremely arrogant.
Well ya..
Isnt that why yall took a pioneer 1000 le diff and put the talon clutch on it.

Don't need us to tell you that.

TRIGGERED, TRIGGERED, TRIGGERED
 
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Well ya..
Isnt that why yall took a pioneer 1000 le diff and put the talon clutch on it.

Don't need us to tell you that.
There are exactly 0.00 LE parts in a Talon locking diff.
 
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