Well decided to go to the stealership to see if any new news and wanted to put money $500 down ,but was told that we are not taking down payment until January when ever they get pricing first.So i had ask him what if it's not in my price range,can i put the money towards a pioneer or anther Honda ..he said NO.you lose the money.....I wasn't too happy when he said that.So they are not getting money from me and Can Ham is looking more promising for me....Piss me off..Oh ya they estimate around 22-25k CDN for the X and it looks like Canada might not be getting the R version,there are no specs for the R not on there Honda.ca site...