well, after a long week of building the ‘ziptie buggy’ Titty Deep Mud Crew went in at warrior creek this weekend. Although I believe some sort of gear reduction is still necessary, The pioneer 700 on 9 inches of lift (3 in suspension/6 in portals) and r20/35/8.3 bkts held up very well and put on a show. If anyone knows of clutch kits available that would help big time. But overall very impressed with the outcome.