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Cool it thermal barrier is approx. 1/16" thick. the "factory insulation" is the black 1" thick square of insulation that the factory already has on the back panel. I removed it to install the thermal barrier, then I used contact cement to attach it in the same location. I figured the more the merrier.
My material is 5/16" thick. Works really well. I make these for the 1000 and starting next month for the 700. I sell them for 26.00 shipped. I have good reviews on them. Also have on on my 1000
I added material behind the seat as well as under, helps in the front but the back seat passengers are cooking and my adult son thought when the weather warms up it will burn your legs ridding in the back seats. Grrrrr
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The hottest spot on mine was the plastic between the seat top and bottom so I attacked that first.
Pictures of what I did below. After a long ride today, my wife said it was much cooler. The surface was still 98 degrees at the end of the day but the temp on the insulation behind it was 136. So i figure I got close to a 35 degree improvement. I forgot to measure the temp before the project.
There's still heat coming into the cab - mostly convection not hot air. Thru the bottom seat and behind the legs. But todays ride was a lot more enjoyable than last weekend.
The problem is - that heat is released there by the header and has no where to go. I need to move where the heat is released and/or move the hot air. I think Bayouownbeer's idea may a place in my future to.
Materials: Dynamat 3/4 inch hoodliner, Thermotech Heat Barrier, Black Gorilla Tape
After the first test drive I felt some warm air coming from behind the back seat. Some 3/8 closed cell rubber tape stopped that.
Pictures of what I did below. After a long ride today, my wife said it was much cooler. The surface was still 98 degrees at the end of the day but the temp on the insulation behind it was 136. So i figure I got close to a 35 degree improvement. I forgot to measure the temp before the project.
There's still heat coming into the cab - mostly convection not hot air. Thru the bottom seat and behind the legs. But todays ride was a lot more enjoyable than last weekend.
The problem is - that heat is released there by the header and has no where to go. I need to move where the heat is released and/or move the hot air. I think Bayouownbeer's idea may a place in my future to.
Materials: Dynamat 3/4 inch hoodliner, Thermotech Heat Barrier, Black Gorilla Tape
After the first test drive I felt some warm air coming from behind the back seat. Some 3/8 closed cell rubber tape stopped that.
Are you talking about the plastic that would be in front of the rear passenger's legs?
That piece was 135 degrees today after a long ride.
All good solutions. I installed foil backed insulation on the back of the plastic panel between the lower and upper seat. I then wrapped the exhaust pipes with cloth exhaust wrap and then I cut a piece of carpet and put it on the area between the lower and upper seat on the outside after cutting slits for the seat belts. I am waiting to install a bilge fan in the engine compartment. After installing these items, the heat has been reduced about 80% and is not even noticeable. Honda needs to do something similar as the heat on an unmodifed pioneer is unbearable. Honda should install foil backed insulation on the seats and all the plastic panels, install some type of covering on the exterior of all exposed plastic in the cockpit and porcelain coat the exhaust system all the way back to the muffler. Vents that open and close on the side of the Unit would help to evacuate the heat coming into the cockpit from the radiator. I'll update the post after I install the engine compartment vent fan.
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As part of my attempt to cut down on the heat i cut out a piece of stainless steal and bolted it to the side of the motor over the header. Still gets warn on seat but not near as bad. You can also see i let the insulation run long up the back. Then i just put it all back together with it under the plastic part as well. Cant see any of it.
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That looks great. I ripped the foam out and went with the foil backed insulation across the whole length of the panel.
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Paulswa1, have you noticed a difference? I'm thinking this should help along with a few other small sections.
Pioneer 1000 5 seater- the seat gets so hot that we have received skin burns from it. Grandchild can't even ride because of the heat and burning What can we do.
This is definitely a design flaw and safety hazard .
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