I need a better spare tire carrier.

[Doogle]

I bought the SuperATV spare tire carrier in 2021 because a friend had the same on his Talon. On 3-21-23 with less than 1000 miles on the machine, my spare was rolling down a hill. I didn't know it. A friend behind me called and said he picked it up. With a warranty so short, it almost expired before it was installed. I took it to a welding shop and had it welded up. I had them add a side support brace since it had nothing to stabilize it in stock form. They also added much front to back support.

I just finished a 5 day 800 mile ride on the Arizona Peace Trail. I added a cable through the wheel and around the pipe going between the 2 sides of the roll cage. If the carrier broke again the wheel would still be dangling, but attached. I thought. On day 2, the guy following me told me my carrier was broken. The horizontal pipe partially broke. The tire sagged down onto my spare gas can. And I think that prevented it from braking completely off. My cable would have disappeared with the wheel.

In my opinion the horizontal pipe should have been a heavier gauge and/or larger diameter. And it should have had some side brackets for support. The pipe that extended out from the horizontal cross pipe should have been closer to that pipe. That long distance is just leverage for the heavy weight of the tire to continually flex the pipe. Since this is an off road machine, there will be some very hard bumps encountered. This carrier may have been perfect for all city roads with no potholes. But for me, I will never ever buy anything from SuperAtv again.

I think I will order the P/N: HN10T-11-0001 Tercel Spare Tire Carrier from beforehttps://www.aproveatv.com/mobile/product.php?lang=en&tb=2&cid=627
Does anyone have any experience with them? It uses a larger 1.75" cross over pipe. And the wheel attachment is closer to that pipe. It has some rear visibility. And I don't want a higher center of gravity. My Talon has been parked on it's side before. Don't want that experience again.

This seems to me the best configuration to start with. Against warranty, I will still add some additional supports. I don't want to lose my spare, again. I may be a grandpa. But I don't ride like one.

 

[Admin]

 

[ToddACimer]

I just looked up HN10T-11-0001. I don't like that it has 2 points of interface with the roll cage. 3 points make a plane and a spare tire is a lot of mass to stabilize around a single axis. That looks like the kind of part that will fatigue crack, fail and potentially cause harm or damage. No experience with that particular part but it's poor design practice.

 

[Doogle]

I just looked up HN10T-11-0001. I don't like that it has 2 points of interface with the roll cage. 3 points make a plane and a spare tire is a lot of mass to stabilize around a single axis. That looks like the kind of part that will fatigue crack, fail and potentially cause harm or damage. No experience with that particular part but it's poor design practice.

I agree. That's why I said I will modify on arrival. I do like the SuperAtv clamps to the roll cage. I wish this had the same. But I think if I bracket up to the overhead roll cage pipe, it would be quite stable.

 

[ScottJ24]

Get a GOOD fabricator to build you one. Most of the carriers I've seen are pretty light duty. I also don't like how they are carried so high. I built my own that mounts to the rear of my ABF Fabrication cage, and the bottom of it is supported by the Bosman rear bumper. The cage is .095 ChroMoly and the mount is .120 wall DOM tubing. It's really easy to install the tire n wheel on. The wheel plate came from AJK Off Road. The rear view mirror is still useful.

 

[Doogle]

Get a GOOD fabricator to build you one. Most of the carriers I've seen are pretty light duty. I also don't like how they are carried so high. I built my own that mounts to the rear of my ABF Fabrication cage, and the bottom of it is supported by the Bosman rear bumper. The cage is .095 ChroMoly and the mount is .120 wall DOM tubing. It's really easy to install the tire n wheel on. The wheel plate came from AJK Off Road. The rear view mirror is still useful. View attachment 462144View attachment 462145

I didn't want that configuration because it was too restrictive of my trunk. It looks like good weight distribution and decent rear visibility. Getting to your filter and adding oil would be awkward.
I forgot to add pictures of my fractured carrier. I'll add them here. My first break, and my second disappointment.

 

[Scoop]

I just received this. I need to do some minor fab to accommodate the large number of Packouts I usually carry, but I'm going to give it a whirl. I bought it from SuperATV (who has thier own version), but this one is made by Assault Industries. It lifts up to allow access to the bed but locks down when you're underway.

Assault Industries Honda Talon 1000 Adventure Rack

You need Assault Industries' Honda Talon 1000 Adventure Cargo Rack. It mounts above your bed and uses locking gas struts to make bed access easy.

www.superatv.com

Here is the SuperATV version. It mounts differently, but works the same way (lifts up to allow access to the bed, locks down when underway).

Honda Talon 1000 Cargo Rack Alpha

SuperATV’s Honda Talon 1000R Cargo Rack Alpha has room for all your gear. Nobody else offers a cargo rack this strong and practical.

www.superatv.com

 

[adudes]

I bought the SuperATV spare tire carrier in 2021 because a friend had the same on his Talon. On 3-21-23 with less than 1000 miles on the machine, my spare was rolling down a hill. I didn't know it. A friend behind me called and said he picked it up. With a warranty so short, it almost expired before it was installed. I took it to a welding shop and had it welded up. I had them add a side support brace since it had nothing to stabilize it in stock form. They also added much front to back support.

I just finished a 5 day 800 mile ride on the Arizona Peace Trail. I added a cable through the wheel and around the pipe going between the 2 sides of the roll cage. If the carrier broke again the wheel would still be dangling, but attached. I thought. On day 2, the guy following me told me my carrier was broken. The horizontal pipe partially broke. The tire sagged down onto my spare gas can. And I think that prevented it from braking completely off. My cable would have disappeared with the wheel.

In my opinion the horizontal pipe should have been a heavier gauge and/or larger diameter. And it should have had some side brackets for support. The pipe that extended out from the horizontal cross pipe should have been closer to that pipe. That long distance is just leverage for the heavy weight of the tire to continually flex the pipe. Since this is an off road machine, there will be some very hard bumps encountered. This carrier may have been perfect for all city roads with no potholes. But for me, I will never ever buy anything from SuperAtv again.

I think I will order the P/N: HN10T-11-0001 Tercel Spare Tire Carrier from beforehttps://www.aproveatv.com/mobile/product.php?lang=en&tb=2&cid=627
Does anyone have any experience with them? It uses a larger 1.75" cross over pipe. And the wheel attachment is closer to that pipe. It has some rear visibility. And I don't want a higher center of gravity. My Talon has been parked on it's side before. Don't want that experience again.

This seems to me the best configuration to start with. Against warranty, I will still add some additional supports. I don't want to lose my spare, again. I may be a grandpa. But I don't ride like one.

My son had the SuperATV carrier on his and your scenario is exactly what I pictured in my head when I saw it. I did the Tusk carrier, it clamps in 4 spots instead of 2 and was about the same price for a much sturdier option.

 

[Doogle]

My son had the SuperATV carrier on his and your scenario is exactly what I pictured in my head when I saw it. I did the Tusk carrier, it clamps in 4 spots instead of 2 and was about the same price for a much sturdier option.

I liked the dual cross pipes. The vision is more obstructed. I could live with that. But the thin looking vertical pieces concerned me. I've had my carrier break twice. I'm not very trusting anymore. The one I will probably order will also need some additional brackets added.