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Yes, they need to be priced with competitive models to really make and impression on the market. I hope they realize that. I'm on my dealers list for a Talon pending pricing. If it's priced in the 18-20k+ range, It really wouldn't make sense to purchase over other makes even though I would prefer a Honda. A Crossover model would be awesome, but I have waited long enough for the Talon and I think Honda actually considers their Pioneer 1000 a sport utility.
Love my P500, but I'm ready for some more power and this old man could use a more comfortable interior and smoother ride!
 
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For me, the Talon X needs to be no more than 15k or I'm out , but my gut says it's going to be 16k-17k :(
I’m trying to be an optimist too but I hate to say it Choog, it’ll definitely be more then 15. Wish they had a base version like the Pioneer
 
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I’m trying to be an optimist too but I hate to say it Choog, it’ll definitely be more then 15. Wish they had a base version like the Pioneer
Owe I hear ya , I was really hoping for a Wolverine type machine(recreational) but I'm not disappointed in what they (Honda) has done with the Talon , I just need it to be within my price range.

I won't be buying until 2020 anyhow , so I am hoping to get a new 1 yr. Old model when the time comes , if supply and demand doesn't get out of control....lol
 

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Owe I hear ya , I was really hoping for a Wolverine type machine(recreational) but I'm not disappointed in what they (Honda) has done with the Talon , I just need it to be within my price range.

I won't be buying until 2020 anyhow , so I am hoping to get a new 1 yr. Old model when the time comes , if supply and demand doesn't get out of control....lol
Oh you’ll be fine...
 

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Owe I hear ya , I was really hoping for a Wolverine type machine(recreational) but I'm not disappointed in what they (Honda) has done with the Talon , I just need it to be within my price range.

I won't be buying until 2020 anyhow , so I am hoping to get a new 1 yr. Old model when the time comes , if supply and demand doesn't get out of control....lol
My plan to steal @JACKAL’s is coming along and still need assistance. Apparently he’s already got one judging by the avatar so maybe by the time we get there it’ll be all pimped out for you.
 

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To be blunt and honest because I hear Honda lurks on the forum, the poor marketing release is going to kill or cool peoples desire to buy, I'm a Honda fanboy and it severely chilled mine. Not everyone reads this forum, even if they should, not everyone goes looking for videos on youtube and listening to every second dissecting them to obtain barely referenced information. It needs to be on Honda's website or links to the youtube videos on Hondas website. With no marketing comparisons between the RZR and the X3 and no showy proof that its a good way to measure the size of your junk (speaking of the masses) it can't be sold for more if it can't beat the competition on paper or video, it doesn't matter how it performs in the woods until much later when word of mouth has grown and even then its has to be a mythical difference like a Bo Jackson story.

Polaris does the XP1k videos.
CanAM has good advertising.
Honda has a minivan...I mean surfer dude, sorry they pushed the Talon aside so quickly I only remembered the "well maintained State Park road" Minivan. They could have at least given the Talon to the MX guy and let him drive it and make a few jumps or taken it to MOAB or something.

Its not a turbo and it shouldn't be priced with them even if it has the i-4wd, even so I added $1000 for i-4wd to each to what I'd pay over what the RZR is going for.

With 6 less HP advertised than a RZR or X3 Honda can't sell a Talon for as much, only limited accessories are available, so reliability only carries so far (again masses), especially with the clutch update and recall debacles. I haven't tried to use my extended warranty yet but I hear its not worth the paper its printed on so Honda is at a Polaris level of customer service even if the machine is light years ahead in reliability. I wanted it to be like my experience with Acura, they would give Chick-fil-a a run for their money as the Golden Standard for Customer Service.

I genuinely hope its really as good as the whispers say but if its priced more than the RZR or priced with the 120HP CanAm, I personally will wait for the first year models to go on reduced pricing to move them off showrooms and out of warehouses, like I did my Pioneer and not pay full price anyway. Thats IF the Talon actually works like it is whispered to, theres no marketing from Honda showing it doing anything but piss poor driving by that old surfer dude with the pornstatche. If its priced with the CanAm and isn't as stable or doesn't perform like the whispers, I'll buy a Can-Am X3 to add to my stable before the end of the year. Forget the Popo its not a consideration for me, even if its the gold standard for the masses according to sales.

Talon-X? 14K you see the RZR1000 which seems to be what Honda is targeting at 18k MSRP but they usually sell for around 13-14k here, and since Honda doesn't allow reducing the price at the dealer it needs to be reduced at MSRP. The travel is less than the RZR1000( I know theres no considerable cost difference between the X and R parts but that is perception by the masses)

Talon-R? 15k for same reasons, but travel is equal to the RZR 1000

Yes that puts the Pioneer LE 3 seat at a $5k price disadvantage.

For comparison the MSRP of the non-LE Pioneer is about 25% less than a General but they SELL for about the same around here.
Honda is more dependable then the others we all know that but and a big but that only goes so far nowadays. Most people will trade in the machine before it ever gets to the point of that dependablity. It does help with resale for sure but people want as mush as possible to show off for the money. Any your right the advertising didn’t help anything. I fully agree with what you said in fact you’re on the money and I hope they don’t price these out of contention.
IMHO You’ll always have the few that even if it did outperform in every way they’d still be in popo but you’ll have many looking this way if price is right along with new people in showrooms not so easily moved across the showroom to buy something else. You will obviously have the take my money at any price Honda guys but even being big Honda fans there are many of us looking at price and comparison. I am afraid Honda will be bull headed and say well ours is worth more, it may be but the masses don’t know or sometimes care and honestly if it’s too steep in price many true Honda guys will look elsewhere.
 

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Honda is more dependable then the others we all know that but and a big but that only goes so far nowadays. Most people will trade in the machine before it ever gets to the point of that dependablity. It does help with resale for sure but people want as mush as possible to show off for the money. I fully agree with what you said in fact you’re on the money and I hope they don’t price these out of contention.
IMHO You’ll always have the few that even if it did outperform in every way they’d still be in popo but you’ll have many looking this way if price is right along with new people in showrooms not so easily moved across the showroom to buy something else. You will obviously have the take my money at any price Honda guys but even being big Honda fans there are many of us looking at price and comparison. I am afraid Honda will be bull headed and say well ours is worth more, it may be but the masses don’t know or sometimes care and honestly if it’s too steep in price many true Honda guys will look elsewhere.

It may be worth more, but part of my point is they need to prove it.

What I sell is more expensive than most of my competitors, BUT our service is second to none, and our product is top tier. I have to show that extra value but most are willing to pay the difference.
 
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It may be worth more, but part of my point is they need to prove it.

What I sell is more expensive than most of my competitors, BUT our service is second to none, and our product is top tier. I have to show that extra value but most are willing to pay the difference.
Didn’t say it wasn’t worth more, yes it’s got to show. We all know warranty is dick so it’s got to be the other things. It took awhile before you started seeing any Pioneers in the woods I hope it’s not the same here. Let’s see!
 
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Owe I hear ya , I was really hoping for a Wolverine type machine(recreational) but I'm not disappointed in what they (Honda) has done with the Talon , I just need it to be within my price range.

I won't be buying until 2020 anyhow , so I am hoping to get a new 1 yr. Old model when the time comes , if supply and demand doesn't get out of control....lol
I have a wolverine type machine. Wanna buy it ?

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Didn’t say it wasn’t worth more, yes it’s got to show. We all know warranty is dick so it’s got to be the other things. It took awhile before you started seeing any Pioneers in the woods I hope it’s not the same here. Let’s see!
We will see, I just don't think Honda is going to sell near as many at 20 as they would at 16ish, with the market as competitive as it is and Polaris giving away machines to get service. Honda can't give them away because they have been too reliable to make money off the repairs. (@JTW axle sales excluded)
 
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