P1000 Lithium battery question

[sugarray]

I am looking into getting a lithium battery as my second battery.

One of the companies I am talking with has asked at full throttle, what is the maximum amp/watt draw from the battery.

Does anyone know?

 

[NTCPrezJB]

I am looking into getting a lithium battery as my second battery.

One of the companies I am talking with has asked at full throttle, what is the maximum amp/watt draw from the battery.

Does anyone know?

Unless you are looking into the extremes of weight saving (aka high end racing) I wouldn't bother. Go with the gel and save the money.

 

[JTW]

Unless you are looking into the extremes of weight saving (aka high end racing) I wouldn't bother. Go with the gel and save the money.

I agree... not worth it for this use. And if you’re using it as your second battery. Full throttle should have nothing to do with it. It’s the auxiliary battery and therefore potentially isolated from any draw at full throttle or could have a winch drawing on it with throttle off. So that’s really irrelevant.

 

[Cuoutdoors]

Don't both batteries have to be lithium if you go that route?

 

[Diyguy]

I would use 2 batteries that are the same size and brand. Why confuse the charging system?

 

[Ericthered]

I have been running 2 lithium batteries for 3 years. The best part is that with a little cutting of plastic ribs in battery box (no loss of integrity) two lithiums fit where one acid battery used to fit. I have only used my winch twice. Both times had no loss of power, but I am in the desert, pulling over spots I didn't want to be in the rig incase it toppled backwards. (yes nearly vertical for one tight spot). I have a remote wire type controller. The single OEM battery failed testing the winch, pulling on flat ground with Hillbilly brake on. That's why I went high amp lithium. Happy I did, no regrets.

 

[snuffnwhisky]

I've saw 2 different drag racers loose there enclosed trailers & 4 cars while hauling them and another guys car burn down in his shop in the last couple weeks. Everything is pointing back to the lithium battery's they were using. I ran a Shorai in my bike and it died in 6 months. They warrantied it and the new one was dead in 6 months. They can be very finicky when charging and don't seem to fare well if discharged too much.

 

[Glock21user]

Lithium batteries become very unstable if discharged too low and are very picky about how they want to be charged.
We run RC cars and trucks some of them are 8s and having more than 60 batteries from 2s to 8s and seeing how they behave and charge there is no way I would run one in anything I would put my family in.
Lipos and water if the protective barrier is compromised in any way is waiting to cause issues.
To those that run them good luck and enjoy as for me no thank you.

 

[sugarray]

I have been running 2 lithium batteries for 3 years. The best part is that with a little cutting of plastic ribs in battery box (no loss of integrity) two lithiums fit where one acid battery used to fit. I have only used my winch twice. Both times had no loss of power, but I am in the desert, pulling over spots I didn't want to be in the rig incase it toppled backwards. (yes nearly vertical for one tight spot). I have a remote wire type controller. The single OEM battery failed testing the winch, pulling on flat ground with Hillbilly brake on. That's why I went high amp lithium. Happy I did, no regrets.

Which brand and model are you using?

 

[sugarray]

Lithium batteries become very unstable if discharged too low and are very picky about how they want to be charged.
We run RC cars and trucks some of them are 8s and having more than 60 batteries from 2s to 8s and seeing how they behave and charge there is no way I would run one in anything I would put my family in.
Lipos and water if the protective barrier is compromised in any way is waiting to cause issues.
To those that run them good luck and enjoy as for me no thank you.

This makes no sense to me. RVers are switching to lithium and the RV community is all agog with them. Using solar panels and 6 or 8 or more lithium batteries and running microwaves and AC and washer and dryers. Not all at the same time, obviously, but you get the point. It might be the charge controller and might end up being more than I'm willing to go through, but it's worth the looks.

On a side note, my Superwinch remote will actuate even when the machine is off. I've noticed this several times and I believe this is a big contributor to me needing my 3rd battery, 2nd battery, in 4 yrs. Both AGM. First was Odyssey PC 925 and 2nd was Wal-mart.

 

[sugarray]

I have a recommendation for a Dakota lithium ion battery at 54 amp Hrs. The Odyssey is only 28. Lithium batteries tolerate a much lower discharge as well as 8-12 times the charge cycles.

You do need a charger that is another $170. The battery is $499.

It is a huge upfront cost and would be better when machine was first purchased as opposed to a 4 yo machine. But, having more power and less worry when I'm buying my 3rd battery very well may be worth it.

 

[Glock21user]

This makes no sense to me. RVers are switching to lithium and the RV community is all agog with them. Using solar panels and 6 or 8 or more lithium batteries and running microwaves and AC and washer and dryers. Not all at the same time, obviously, but you get the point. It might be the charge controller and might end up being more than I'm willing to go through, but it's worth the looks.

On a side note, my Superwinch remote will actuate even when the machine is off. I've noticed this several times and I believe this is a big contributor to me needing my 3rd battery, 2nd battery, in 4 yrs. Both AGM. First was Odyssey PC 925 and 2nd was Wal-mart.

Good luck whatever you decide to do.
Having lost two RC cars that were worth each approx 1k I can assure that I have seen mine with 3 others catch fire mid run and 3 of the total of 5 were right after a water crossing.
Lipo batteries and water do not mix at all.
In the RC hobby there are actually fireproof bags people buy to charge them because they are known to let go mid charge.
Are the RC batteries and the auto, rv batteries different I am certain they are but with the vibration, water and general abuse a battery can take I won't risk it.
And at an initial investment of 600 to 700 dollars I can go through a whole bunch of AGM batteries.
The other issue to consider is that lipo batteries do not like to be discharged below 3.0 volts before damage occurs and then there is the continued need to trickle charge them to keep the voltage between 3.0 to 4.0 volts per cell.
A 12.8 volt RV lipo battery will be 4 3.2 volt cells to make a 12.8 volt battery and I do know that in the RC world they require a balance board and balance charger so the battery will charge evenly.
We are approaching this from totally opposite sides, you see cost over time vs. Initial investment and I couldn't care less of those concerns I just see the safety side when I am powering an 8hp electric RC truck and know the issues I along with a group of friends have seen or had.
I am by no means saying you are wrong or shouldn't if it is what you want I am just pointing out how I see things and why I wouldn't.
Once again I wish you the best and hopefully I am wrong on all accounts and you pass me on the trail.

 

[snuffnwhisky]

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[Remington]

This makes no sense to me. RVers are switching to lithium and the RV community is all agog with them. Using solar panels and 6 or 8 or more lithium batteries and running microwaves and AC and washer and dryers. Not all at the same time, obviously, but you get the point. It might be the charge controller and might end up being more than I'm willing to go through, but it's worth the looks.

On a side note, my Superwinch remote will actuate even when the machine is off. I've noticed this several times and I believe this is a big contributor to me needing my 3rd battery, 2nd battery, in 4 yrs. Both AGM. First was Odyssey PC 925 and 2nd was Wal-mart.

An RV charging system is a completely diferent demon than a SXS or a vehicle. Solar is as well. Couldnt be more polar opsites like my 2 blacks labs from the same litter.

 

[Ericthered]

Well, three years and no fires, failures, or calamities. Guess I am just lucky. Batteries cost $110 each and charger $35. I charge it in the toyhauler where it lives in the winter. As neither of them has spontaneous combustion, I must be doing something right.

 

[Glock21user]

Well, three years and no fires, failures, or calamities. Guess I am just lucky. Batteries cost $110 each and charger $35. I charge it in the toyhauler where it lives in the winter. As neither of them has spontaneous combustion, I must be doing something right.

And that is a good thing, glad it is working for ya.

 

[IXInaplesIXI]

Waiting on the Tesla SxS , those batteries will be crazy 😆