P1000 Missing weld =broke down sxs

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Sorry to hear this. I know it sucks. But Honda will get it fixed. Problem will be if you want to wait and are ok with the solution.
Honda will not approve welding it. they will want to replace it. And by "it", we may be talking the entire frame and not just the front 1/3.
Honestly, many of us would fix it ourselves.
- No trouble of frame swap.
- And you can oversee it done CORRECTLY!

There is a good handful that have done it with there 700's.
What do you mean, you don't currently own a big Red?
 
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What do you mean, you don't currently own a big Red?
??? I own a 1000.

I have personally seen 4, 700's have their brackets welded back on. But not from missing welds. I dont think. Just poor choice of tubing from Honda. too light weight.
 
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It sucks to have this problem and it shouldn't have escaped QC. Other than the time waiting, why wouldn't you want a new frame? I agree with some others that Honda isn't going to sign off on someone else welding on it, to much liability there. Honestly I can't see why the front section of the frame can't be replaced and not have to replace the rest.

BTW, I don't see Honda replacing the entire machine for this issue.
 
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I wasn't aware the frame was multi section,,I just don't want a brand new bike that has been completely dismantled and then put back together if just the front clip can be changed and engine can be all left alone would be wonderfully
 
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I wasn't aware the frame was multi section,,I just don't want a brand new bike that has been completely dismantled and then put back together if just the front clip can be changed and engine can be all left alone would be wonderfully
The frame bolts together under the front floorboard. To the right of #22 in the black area.
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I do hope they will do just front part for you. Please keep us updated.
 
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Stop by dealer today at lunch they finally got ahold of honda and I guess want more pictures than the 5 my dealer allready sent them. I talked to shop supervisor about maybe just changing to front part of frame as described to me on here and he says even though blueprint shows frame coming apart by front of cab .there's no separate part numbers and the frame still comes as one peice . He still wants to just weld it but hasn't got OK from them so still waiting on verdict
 
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If you haven't personally called Honda tech, you might want to. The dealer should have the case number. If you don't want your dealer to know you are calling, Honda will also be able to locate the case by VIN. Even if there isn't a part number Honda should be able to provide just that section. I guess since it's only been a couple of days you could give them more time to make a determination.

Here's the info...

866) 784-1870 toll free

Monday through Friday

8:30 AM to 4:30 PM Pacific
 
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I thought about posting this earlier but looking at the frame I thought there would be front section, but looking at it and with the info above it is still one complete unit. I would be a little nervous without a new frame, because I would be curious what other spots the "robot" missed. I know it sucks and would still be nervous about them putting it together right, but I would still wonder about those other welds. If you feel confident in the rest of the machine, maybe they could get the complete frame and then just install front section from it. I feel for you and wish you luck.
 
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Dang I've been busy and forgot about this old post , recap of what happened is dealer got go ahead from honda to bend bracket back in place weld it back and touch up paint they did great job can't even tell anything was ever wrong . Just had the inconvenience of no bike for a week and half till honda made up there mind how to move forward
 
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Glad to hear that they got you taken care of

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I have a 2019 and just had the same issue. I ran over a small snow pile at low speed and immediately noticed that the steering started pulling hard to the left. Come to find out the upper a-arm frame bracket was only welded at the top. The bottom portion of the bracket had a weld bead on the bracket but had zero penetration into the frame. By not being welded the impact caused the bracket to bend up knocking the a-arm out of position ( see pictures).

This should be an eye opener for Honda assuming they read these posts. This is a BAD WELD on a STEERING component...Its happened more than once over multiple model years on a safety critical system. I don’t know about you folks but I’ve never heard of a bad steering system weld on any car, truck, atv, utv, etc. ever and I’m old.

I guess the good news is I just bent it back into position and welded it myself. It took about 10 minutes to fix.
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I built a front upper a-arm brace that you could build pretty easily. It is 2 pieces of 1/8” flat stock welded together and bolted to the front bumper mounts and the a-arm mount and the a gusset connecting them together. Just a thought....
 
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