So I took the strongmade lift off the front just to check the ground clearance difference with and without. So with 2" puck lift and the strongmade I had 13" ground clearance. Took the strongmade off and left the puck lift on and had 13.5" ground clearance but my tires rubbed worse in off camber situation. These measurements are at bottom of frame at the front and with the 28" blackwaters on at 10 psi.