New Sub Trans Shift Star P1K/Talon

[HondaTech]

For those interested in the updated parts available. Installed my first set today, haven't got the unit back together yet to test.
New part on top. Shaft has been bored out as well, supposed to let oil escape from between it and the case better when cold.
I wouldn't put any sub trans together without these new parts.

Shaft 24210-HL4-010
Star 24331-HL4-010

 

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[Vikes79]

For those interested in the updated parts available. Installed my first set today, haven't got the unit vack together yet to test.

New part on top. Shaft has been bored out as well, supposed to let oil escape from between it akf the case better when cold.

View attachment 313399

It’s a bit hard to tell in the pic but it looks like it might be case hardened too?

 

[HondaTech]

It’s a bit hard to tell in the pic but it looks like it might be case hardened too?

They looked to be the same in person as far as thats concerned.

 

[Stateboy]

It appears the lower one has a rounded point on the lobe and a more shallow dip that the other one at first glance.

 

[906UP]

It appears the lower one has a rounded point on the lobe and a more shallow dip that the other one at first glance. View attachment 313413

Good eye, definitely a deeper detent on the top one

 

[Rayger143]

Good eye, definitely a deeper detent on the top one

And the lower also

 

[HondaTech]

New Shift Shaft on left

 

[lee]

New Shift Shaft on left View attachment 314333View attachment 314334

Dose the old shaft have a flat on the bottom end (as seen in the picture)?
So the gun drilled hole replaces a flat milled in the rod.

 

[HondaTech]

Dose the old shaft have a flat on the bottom end (as seen in the picture)?
So the gun drilled hole replaces a flat milled in the rod.

Yes, the flat was suppose to let oil out from behind the shaft, but apparently it wasnt enough. The drilled shaft lets more out, especially when cold to help ease shifting into low gear.

 

[Plowboy1466]

So when I redo my sub trans with the talon reverse gears and new low gears, should I ad these? Any part #'s?

 

[HondaTech]

So when I redo my sub trans with the talon reverse gears and new low gears, should I ad these? Any part #'s?

I wouldn't put any sub trans together without these new parts.

Shaft 24210-HL4-010
Star 24331-HL4-010

 

[Plowboy1466]

Awesome. Thanks!

 

[Montecresto]

I wouldn't put any sub trans together without these new parts.

Shaft 24210-HL4-010
Star 24331-HL4-010

Btw, isn’t there more updated parts in the subtrans than just the star and shaft?

 

[HondaTech]

Btw, isn’t there more updated parts in the subtrans than just the star and shaft?

Some 2021 model Talons and Pioneers may have come with these 2 parts.

These are supposed to be the low gear fix for popping out or grinding.

The 2022 models have these parts as well as multiple other new parts as well for both the Pioneer and Talon. Som shared, some not.

 

[Montecresto]

Some 2021 model Talons and Pioneers may have come with these 2 parts.

These are supposed to be the low gear fix for popping out or grinding.

The 2022 models have these parts as well as multiple other new parts as well for both the Pioneer and Talon. Som shared, some not.

I guess I either have to pay the dealer to install those updated parts or wait till I have failure and get them replaced under warranty????

 

[HondaTech]

I guess I either have to pay the dealer to install those updated parts or wait till I have failure and get them replaced under warranty????

As far as I know, yes. It seems Honda is paying to have them installed with a sub trans warranty repair.

 

[Montecresto]

As far as I know, yes. It seems Honda is paying to have them installed with a sub trans warranty repair.

But the tech at my dealer tells me only if there’s actual failure, not as a preventative measure….if I understand it correctly.

 

[TripleB]

I wouldn't put any sub trans together without these new parts.

Shaft 24210-HL4-010
Star 24331-HL4-010

So I don't need the updated drum part number in the middle?

 

[HondaTech]

View attachment 314662
So I don't need the updated drum part number in the middle?

The drum is a new part number because it comes with the updated shift star attached as well.

Edit: So no, you wont need the drum.

 

[HondaTech]

But the tech at my dealer tells me only if there’s actual failure, not as a preventative measure….if I understand it correctly.

We installed it on this warranty claim i just did, ill have to look and see if it got paid today.