Pioneer 500 Top End Repair Needed

[futzin]

Hey guys, I need some help. I have a 2018 P5 with 3000 miles that I strongly suspect needs motor repair. Looking for someone to do it. Kentucky, Tennessee (maybe W. Virginia, Ohio, Indiana) is ok.

Occasional smoke from exhaust, heavy oil usage, loss of power.

From pure ignorance, I left it running after tipping it on its side.

I don't think @906UP is quite ready yet for a 1K transplant! 😁

 

[Admin]

 

[906UP]

@KyGal83 you're up, time for that top end module of your mechanic training

 

[pappyo]

Fleet owners always have at least one Rig ( in shop for repairs )

It' is Quicker Pace than most on lowering Net Worth

Perfect time to Slip in a Bigger Power Plant !!

 

[futzin]

Fleet owners always have at least one Rig ( in shop for repairs )

It' is Quicker Pace than most on lowering Net Worth

Perfect time to Slip in a Bigger Power Plant !!

I figure I can afford three P5s or 1 Talon. I don't much like the Talon and can't run it where I live anyway so it works out . . .

I know, heresy!

 

[futzin]

Perfect time to Slip in a Bigger Power Plant !!

Honestly, I'd like to have the 520 motor in Critter. Noticeably more jump from a start than the P500.

@lee @906UP : any potential 'gotchas' in doing that?

 

[Neohio]

Hey guys, I need some help. I have a 2018 P5 with 3000 miles that I strongly suspect needs motor repair. Looking for someone to do it. Kentucky, Tennessee (maybe W. Virginia, Ohio, Indiana) is ok.

Occasional smoke from exhaust, heavy oil usage, loss of power.

From pure ignorance, I left it running after tipping it on its side.

I don't think @906UP is quite ready yet for a 1K transplant! 😁

Drag it up to Cleveland.

 

[906UP]

Honestly, I'd like to have the 520 motor in Critter. Noticeably more jump from a start than the P500.

@lee @906UP : any potential 'gotchas' in doing that?

No but there's very little difference in power, about 1hp. I suspect the difference you feel is related to gearing changes.

FWIW, I did put the 520 (518cc) cylinder on Donkey a couple years ago just to see if I could, I wouldn't recommend it though, it required complete disassembly and machining the cases

 

[906UP]

Drag it up to Cleveland.

There you go Futz... helluva lot closer than the Yoop!

 

[Neohio]

There you go Futz... helluva lot closer than the Yoop!

In reality, it isn't much closer. 75 runs right up the westside of Ohio, 71 goes to my place diagonally from Cinci. It is a long boring drive.

 

[futzin]

No but there's very little difference in power, about 1hp. I suspect the difference you feel is related to gearing changes.

Probably, but it's significant. Could be helpful on rock climbs . . .

 

[KyGal83]

No but there's very little difference in power, about 1hp. I suspect the difference you feel is related to gearing changes.

FWIW, I did put the 520 (518cc) cylinder on Donkey a couple years ago just to see if I could, I wouldn't recommend it though, it required complete disassembly and machining the cases

Might be a dumb question but… If it’s gearing that gives it that extra oomph… Can you change the 500 gearing to match the 520’s to obtain it?

 

[Rdrcr]

@KyGal83 you're up, time for that top end module of your mechanic training

I had to go buy a 1000cc CanAm because of your procrastination! It’s ludicrous!
Although, 70mph in a 50inch wide machine, is hilarious!

Bring the people what they need…1000cc P500/520 conversion

Mike

 

[futzin]

The 700 matched to the 5 speed would be the berries!!

 

[futzin]

Critter is back home and reassembled.
HUGE thanks to a forum member for the engine work (he can step forward if he wants 😀).

 

[The Green Goat]

Will it yank the front tires in 3rd gear now?

 

[futzin]

Will it yank the front tires in 3rd gear now?

it will not

 

[The Green Goat]

it will not

So still only 2nd? That's disappointing.

 

[futzin]

Will it yank the front tires in 3rd gear now?

To be totally honest, I haven't tried. Perhaps it will! 😄

 

[Rdrcr]

it will not

You’re not missing anything 🤣

Mike

 

[P1K5Dave]

So what was the extent of the work?